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New Phaser and Rifle Revealed

Yeah, those are not "trolls". Within context - all these other prop videos - there's nothing to critizise with that phaser rifle video. But as others have already pointed out, this one looks really f-*-ing realistic. And the tagline "lock and load" doesn't make it any better. Note that there aren't any comments like this on the video of the new phaser, because that's clearly recognizable as a sci-fi prop. If this rifle video would stand alone - without the other props - it would indeed come too close to gun porn for my taste. Not a matter of 'trolling', just 'taste' and 'missing context'.

Well... I'm honestly clueless on how Energy Weapons can look "too much realistic". In real life most Direct-energy weapons are either experimental or not as potent as the Star Trek Phaser. If I'm not mistaken, isn't messing with Drones the biggest use for these types of weapons in real life ? I don't know if you can "blast" someone or something with real life Direct Energy weapons like Star Trek Phasers can blast people. We are a loooong way from having weapons like Phasers in real life.

To me it all boils down to the fact that Guns have bullets and that Phaser Rifle doesn't really look like it can hold any bullets. It looks more like a Nerf Gun than an actual Gun. But, oh well, to each their own.
 
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New phasers are not bad. waiting for the tricorder...
I would prefer a higher quality(and much larger price) from maybe QMX?
 
Are people really complaining that the production quality on the props is too high? It's supposed to look realistic. They've almost always tried to make them look realistic within the limits of the budget and available materials.
 
Well... I'm honestly clueless on how Energy Weapons can look "too much realistic". In real life most Direct-energy weapons are either experimental or not as potent as the Star Trek Phaser. If I'm not mistaken, isn't messing with Drones the biggest use for these types of weapons in real life ? I don't know if you can "blast" someone or something with real life Direct Energy weapons like Star Trek Phasers can blast people. We are a loooong way from having weapons like Phasers in real life.

To me it all boils down to the fact that Guns have bullets and that Phaser Rifle doesn't really look like it can hold any bullets. It looks more like a Nerf Gun than an actual Gun. But, oh well, to each their own.

I'm going to just forward you this quote a few pages earlier:

I would not go running around with one of those phaser rifles during Trick or Treat. One could find themselves on the wrong end of a cops bullet. :eek:

That's a problem you wouldn't probably have with the new phaser design.
 
That's a problem you wouldn't probably have with the new phaser design.

I don't know. The way things have been lately everywhere, I think that's a problem you would have even if you walked around with a Flash Gordon Ray Gun.

If we were talking about Nu-BSG, The Expanse prop guns I would probably agree. But I still don't see Discovery's Phaser Rifle as something that could possibly shoot bullets. It looks too Sci-Fi-ish. Even those lateral tubes are a visual reference to that silly TOS Rifle.

This is my own perception, of course. It may differ from person to person.
 
I don't know. The way things have been lately everywhere, I think that's a problem you would have even if you walked around with a Flash Gordon Ray Gun.
Sorry, my comment was from a non-American perspective. With no guns on the street, there's more leeway for police officers - people running around with phasers or waterpistols would be pretty much ignored, while everything that looks like a potentially real gun would pretty much immediately make the police put you under scrutiny and them telling you to knock it down and put that thing away, if it isn't clearly some part of obvious cosplay/costumes (nobody would be going after a pirate carrying a musket).


If we were talking about Nu-BSG, The Expanse prop guns I would probably agree. But I still don't see Discovery's Phaser Rifle as something that could possibly shoot bullets. It looks too Sci-Fi-ish. Even those lateral tubes are a visual reference to that silly TOS Rifle.

Hm, I actually think the rifle is pretty near the line of 'real'-ness. Pretty obvious sci-fi when scrutinized, but actually not as unambigious on first sight.
 
I don't know. The way things have been lately everywhere, I think that's a problem you would have even if you walked around with a Flash Gordon Ray Gun.

Sorry, my comment was from a non-American perspective. With no guns on the street, there's more leeway for police officers - people running around with phasers or waterpistols would be pretty much ignored, while everything that looks like a potentially real gun would pretty much immediately make the police put you under scrutiny and them telling you to knock it down and put that thing away, if it isn't clearly some part of obvious cosplay/costumes (nobody would be going after a pirate carrying a musket).

You know, I grew up in the U.S. and ran around with realistic-looking weapons as a kid all the time and was never in any danger. I had a cap-gun when I was eight that looked like a Colt pistol. Even when I was in college, I ran around campus with a battery-powered water pistol that looked like a Tec-9. There's been a change, though in the last thirty years ... news programs hype every extreme situation like it's happening right around the corner, and the police seem to have become a lot more trigger-happy. It isn't a gun culture that has done this, it's a culture of fear that's at fault. The media lives by selling fear, and the majority of the population just buys it up without any skepticism.
 
I don't know. The way things have been lately everywhere, I think that's a problem you would have even if you walked around with a Flash Gordon Ray Gun.

If we were talking about Nu-BSG, The Expanse prop guns I would probably agree. But I still don't see Discovery's Phaser Rifle as something that could possibly shoot bullets. It looks too Sci-Fi-ish. Even those lateral tubes are a visual reference to that silly TOS Rifle.

This is my own perception, of course. It may differ from person to person.
Speaking from a more rural perspective, it honestly doesn't bother me. People walk around with open weapons, from pistols, to knives. Legally, in my town, you can walk around with a sword.
 
This phaser is bloody excellent. It is exactly the sort of visual update that keeps the style and feel of the original I was hoping for. They seem to be nailing this on these small things, it's a shame that they didn't use this approach on the bigger things such as the ships and uniforms.
 
Thank you SPCTRE, for bringing that up, that is a topic I always wanted to discuss more in depth!
I know, right? I feel this could be a fascinating topic to delve into in depth and it totally would not be tiring at all. Perhaps one should start a thread in GTD enquiring why there's so much resistance to the idea of Starfleet being a military...
 
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Sorry, my comment was from a non-American perspective.

Oh, don't worry, there's no problem! I was also speaking from a non-American perspective. In the Country where I live we actually have a lot of people walking around with guns. Most of these guns are illegal though. Here you can get shot for just looking "funny". Even if they have no visual confirmation of a Grip or something that remotely looks like a gun.

So, nope, I would totally not walk around with that Star Trek Discovery Phaser Rifle, even I find it completely unrealistic. :eek:

However, I understand that some people are becoming trigger-happy in the U.S too, like @Psion said. And I suspect people from other Countries are probably living the same situation too. So I think that even if someone has a silly looking prop weapon, it doesn't matter where you are, they ought to be careful with it because it can lead to trouble.

It isn't a gun culture that has done this, it's a culture of fear that's at fault. The media lives by selling fear, and the majority of the population just buys it up without any skepticism.

I think both gun culture and the culture of fear contributed elements to this situation. I think there's a vocal minority of gun owners who refuse to accept the fact that there is a good chunk of the population that is pre-disposed to be averse to guns. I don't know if it's Cultural or not, but we should all respect each other's limits. And I know most gun owners do respect those limits.

But there's also a vocal minority on the other side that starts commotions because of imaginary Space Laser Guns. I fail to see how that will help their Gun Control Cause doing that sort of thing. Besides, like you and @fireproof78 said, in some Regions the local population is just used with it having Guns around. There's nothing to be done about it, we should just respect other people's way of life.

To the Mods and Admins that happen to read this, I'm sorry if I went too much Off-Topic. These are my last words on the Gun subject. Pinky swear. :D
 
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