It means keep everyone but the WASP out, they are already a global minority. They recognise those Hispanics will overtake them in numbers in a few decades.
Patrick Stewart Wants To Become A U.S. Citizen To Fight Trump
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Wait, they're letting wasps in? WTF? Have they learned nothing from the killer bees? They're bad hombres.
Yeah, but Belushi's been dead for about 35 years. They're no longer the bullies and threat to old ladies and hosts of the week that they once were.
Borders and picket lines are in many ways the same thing. Reagan had his blanket amnesty--but that devastated African American dry-walling jobs. That was the point. That and he was hoping for staunch Roman Catholic votes that would be anti-choice--it might explain how Prop * was a thing in otherwise liberal California.
Any border is unpleasant.
If I were a scab--and I tried to cross the picket line of Cesar Chavez--at the very least I'm going to get a good screaming at--and rightfully so.
Remember, the globalists want no borders--no picket lines, no regulations.
I support strong unions and borders both.
Now, a lot of unenlightened dixiecrats were pro-union--and the free-trade libertarians convinced us that unionists were boors in the same way the left wants us all to think that pro-border folks are boors.
Don't fall for it. Mexico has a pretty strong border after all.
If anything, Democrats ran from Union folks like some of the blue-blood outsourcers run from pro-border types. But this is all why wages have fallen
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/25/the-liberal-case-against-illegal-immigration.html
It was said that Anthony Hopkins renounced his UK citizen ship to become a US citizen. Yet, he's still noted in Wikipedia as "Sir Anthony Hopkins." They've also noted him as having dual citizenship. So perhaps Patrick will still retain his honorary title of Sir Patrick Stewart, if he does the same. Unless, he completely drops his UK citizenship and becomes only a US citizen.
So, what you are saying is that there....will....be....TWO....CITIZENSHIPS?
If either Patrick Stewart or Anthony Hopkins were to drop their claim to UK citizenship, I assume the knighthood would effectively become honorary, like those awarded to George H W Bush, Ronald Reagan, Casper Weinberger, Colin Powell, Norman Schwarzkopf, Bill Gates, Steven Spielberg, and many other US citizens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_honorary_British_knights_and_dames
I believe a full US citizen can't use an honorific such as "Sir". I don't know if the US allows the use of the letters of the order (KBE, GCB, KCB etc) after names.
It's honorary to begin with... and there are even Americans who are given an honorary OBE (Order of the British Empire).
https://www.buzzfeed.com/ukinusa/12-americans-you-probably-didnat-know-are-honora-dp3u
Obviously they don't call Steven Spielberg "Sir Steven"... The "Sir" pre-nominal title used in formal and respectful address seems to befall only English recipients of the OBE. A change of citizenry won't cause loss of the OBE. It's a lifetime honor, until renounced for whatever reason. If one is a British citizen upon receiving the OBE, does the "Sir" pre-nominal title still stand after changing citizenship? I'm not quite sure, given what I discovered with precedent.
I dug a little deeper on Anthony Hopkins. Apparently he does have dual citizenship. "http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sir-anthony-citizen-hopkins/"
I read that "While he can still be referred to as 'Sir Anthony' in the UK, the US’s requirement to give up titles of nobility means that he’s simply “Mr. Hopkins” over here." That would mean in any official capacity within the USA, he'd be referred to as "Mr. Hopkins." But I'll bet you anything that through any social channels in the USA he'll be called "Sir Anthony".
Considering Patrick Stewart, all indications are that he did a full citizenship change, not dual citizenship. I don't know if that means he'll be giving up the "Sir" pre-nominal title. Apparently the change of citizenship won't mean that he loses the OBE (or CBE). I expect everyone will still call him "Sir Patrick," no matter what.
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OBE is "Officer of the Order of the British Empire." There are five levels to the order, only the top two of which are knighthoods. OBE is the second-lowest level.
Knight or Dame Grand Cross (GBE)
Knight or Dame Commander (KBE or DBE)
Commander (CBE)
Officer (OBE)
Member (MBE)
Stewart is a knight bachelor, that is sort of a "generic" knighthood without membership in a particular order.
I take the point but most of the people so recognized nowadays have made significant contributions to their communities. It's too aristocratic-sounding for my American tastes, but even dyed-in-the-wool Labourites have been accepting knighthoods and even peerages for the better part of a hundred years.
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Knight is not a title of nobility, and not all knights are nobles. Patrick Stewart is a commoner given a Knighthood, he hasn't been given a 'title' in the truest sense (otherwise he would be Lord Stewart or addressed by his title, usually Baron for young-money upstarts like him)
Like Donald Trump acting in the film "Ghosts Can't Do it."
Or being in a cameo in the 1995 Little Rascals movie. Or being on Saturday Night Live because somebody at NBC wanted him to do it, while the cast didn't want to do it (at least it wasn't as calculated as this president's appearance on a so called 'classic' late '60's comedy show that pretended to be 'hip' and 'with it but wasn't compared to its contemporary). Or running a casino (a veritable license to print money) and messing that up (as well as the hotel attached to it.) I'd say that Patrick Stewart is better at a lot of things, and isn't an idiot who had the luck to be born with a silver spoon.
As for Obama messing up things, again here's his list of accomplishments.
Trump has hardly let us down, fact is the opposite, as I pointed out, Democrats have been the ones killing us. I don't use that term lightly, might as well been creeping around our communities at night, slitting our throats these last two decades. Same results.
100% it was Bill Clinton. We had tariff laws preventing massive international steel imports. My first protests was in DC protesting it as a teenager.
With Trump, we suddenly have tanginable actions on moving long dead businesses that Bill Clinton murdered. Not saying at all its the old businesses resurrecting, but we do have companies finally coming around and not merely talking, but acting. I walk along my towns old mill every day, watching them tear it down. One of Trump's cabinet picks briefly owned the mill in they rust years (he didn't close it down, had long been dead, couldn't resurrect it then given the regressive economic ideology of that era) and tried to reorganize it, nothing has happened since then than people coming and saying its impossible.
Trump gets in, boom.... progress.
Who am I to believe, ideological rhetoric, or actual observable facts?
Let's see..... Lifetime full of lies, scaremongering, watching my community destroyed, and passing through the wastelands of countless others equally crushed, or seeing tangible, real, factual results, not based on liberal fearmongering, but truth?
I'm no longer playing along. No Fynn, I'll sooner give up on you than my people.... Your worth nothing, they are worth everything. Bigger monster than the boogeyman of coal is getting those crazy, crazy, crazy insane British maniacs like Patrick Stewart to stop chopping down forests around the world to use in their renewable, green energy powerplants. Its far, far, far worst.
I've studied how people debate, joined as many philosophy groups as I could, went to several cities over the years. I've found most rhetoric is based of unconscious emotional fears, when pressed, people can't rationally eludicate what they are so stubborn holding out on. Comes from early youth. I used to be like many a suicide leftist, buying into the fear of global warming. I had to think back to the origins of where this thinking came from. Was the elementry school "Weekly Readers" we used to get in school, covering topics and making absurd syllogisms, impressioning fear. Global warming duscussions usually was accompanied by dinosaur extinctions, tied into green house gases, and warnings from All Gore how only our generation could fix things. I was like, first and second grade then.... looking out the window thinking somehow magically a little smoke was going to kill off the human race.
Early impressions like that stay with us, it is a catalyst for future reasoning. Its not the Noble Lie https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie because the noble lie was a myth presented to preserve a society from forces that pushed it towards destruction, by replacing it with lies that encourage harmony and cooperation. Examples in this thread would be the obviously false belief some insist upon, illegal immigrants commit less crimes. By default, a illegal immigrant has committed at the very least one crime, hence why they are illegal- but it is understood why the lie is stated, those individuals have positive emotive group feeling attachments to illegals (ergo, absolutely none to those dying as a result of encouraging the crime open border areas bring in drugs and gangs, drug deaths, economic losses due to lowered naturally floating wages and increased competition for locals in securing work at livable rates). We get it, you love drug cartels, gang violence, mass unemployment and homelessness more than most of your own countrymen. That's your worldview, nobody has a universally humane worldview, everyone picks some losers and winners, just so happens my people are the ones who get to suffer and die in your utopian worldview. Fantastic, beautiful, whatever.
Fear of industry or industrializatoon isn't a noble lie however. I can at least look at the suicidal left (as well as Austrian School of Economics conservatives) and say at least they are terribly misguided for not inherently evil reasons- they think without much understanding that they are somehow helping others, being more inclusive and open.
In the case of economic terrorism however, only thing that I can observe resulting is a slow switch from the Christian concept of the Apocalypse due to our sins, to a Neo-Stoic fear that the angry sun god will punish us for not recycling by melting the world. Stoics didn't believe in recycling (nor waste for that matter), but other than that, the resurrection of that old apocalyptic religion has come around remarkably well. Yes, religion. 100% cultic. No different from Amazonians wearing cockcones, or people dancing in a temple to a idol. Very big chunck of our population that thinks it is highly rational and sensible and atheistic is everybit as irrational and insane as the worst we can find out there. Challenge me on this, I will show you, one of my favorite past times.
I gain absolutely no guilt over my carbon footprint. Carbon is natural, we are well below norms for our last interglacial warming period, we have far more green biomass today than in the past. I'm more worried about real pollution, like crewy air at ground level, or strange water with three eyed fish. Only think carbon fears do is drive people like scared cattle into Democratic party pins for the slaughter. Its very true, its what happened to us. I don't blame China and India for scoffing at the bullshit and lies. Many mills nearly went bancrupt putting air scrubbers on their mills, then Clinton pulled his stunt. Environmentalism backfired. Had he not done that, had more efforts been made to not screw with the laws we had on the books protecting key industries, fucusing on real pollution instead if liberal fantasy pollution, good chance the air in New Delhi and Beijing would be cleaner. They saw what falling for this liberal cult does, it kills jobs. My preference is more carbon in the athmospher, but less chewy air on the ground. Clear skies are good, can be economic with good tariffs and right incentives backed by laws in place. Suicide left didn't want that, so now we are forced to completely obliterate the entire cult. And yes, that cult will die. I'm completely confident we won't die.
Simple logic. If somehow humans accelerated the environment to a dangerous level (by no means is that the case) through carbon, and reversing our carbon use stops this, then what started it? Was it the use of Flint or Bronze Age smelters that caused the ice shelves to melt? Did we knick up a atmospheric storm with that much glinting, really? Couple roman legions marching around Germany caused a mini iceage? Fishing villages caused global sea levels to rise last few thousand years, ice to receed to the present stage? I'm gonna have to side with George Carlin and say the Earth doesn't give a damn about our beliefs or outlooks, that were at worst a nuisance, can't really change anything, it kills us, not vice versa. We happened to reach a awareness beyond Theophastus' Clouds in a era when the icecaps are coincidetly receding, and I am quite honestly okay with that. It's happened in the last interglacial period too, when northern Canada was warm. I am not scared.
What I am scared of, however, is just how deeply stupid we've become as far as explaining the social epidemiology of crime waves and actual social strife in a republican system of government. No subject is taboo for us to talk, but we've gotten prior to Trump to a point where we can't even talk about the obvious elephant in the room, damn near slave labor priced illegal labor flooding the market, coupled with drug cartels flooding through the exact sane route, destabilizing not just our country, but the source countries too. Its a act of absolute insanity not to face up to the truth.
It won't be solved from fearful retreats into childhood fears or kneejerk ideological programming either. Know that precious starfleet academy in San Francisco right now has several dozen homeless people huddled in the rain as mounted horse patrols search for them. All they want is work, and the main thing keeping them from it is your belief system, one you inherited from someone without much question. You accepted the fears, the excuses. You failed however to love those closest to you in the now of your community. You instead favor abstract ideas like the legitimacy of distant populations moving here because your unwilling to challenge your own understandings of how the world works. Mexico will soon have more engineers than the US, but can't manage a stable banking system that invests in small businesses and mortage on a western scale of penetration cause the economy, government services, and land is tied up by competition from cartels. They wouldn't be fleeing here on a illegal basis if they didn't have to. Only obvious way to stop it is to slap up a big wall, and guard it, to severely diminish their ability to fund that sort of crime. It will wither, the government in both states north and south can assert themselves.
You can't have a economy improve without a focus on jobs, Trump heavily focuses on Jobs. He constantly meets with business leaders. He has tangible results seen already, Obama had only hypothetical statistical ones liberals would gleefully chant to the homeless, saying how the depression ended, how everything is better- fucking dirty lies. Can't believe that level of arrogance, like trying to sell a house that is on fire.
Lastly, global warming has been rapidly advancing over the last 10,000 years. Go visit the lake of Minnesota, the expanding Sahara, or the dried up Saraswati river if you don't believe me. Nothing we can do, absolutely nothing, even had we never existed, could stop the ice from melting, no the effort isn't worthwhile, it is infact misguided as fuck, makes us stupid and irrational, as it becomes less rational and emperical and more faithbased, lead by priests in white lab coats. You want to become a real environmentalists, stop polluting the water or dumping low level unscrubbed pollution people breathe in, stop worrying about carbon. Only reason a scientific concensus exists that global warming is happening is the same reason there was a mideval concensus by priests that paying indulgences resolved sins- because fools were dumb enough to pay a institution in mass for what I'm sure was originally a honest attempt to resolve a spiritual crisis of greed, resulting in priests discovering it was a fantastic source of income, becoming dependent upon it in time. Our governments subsudise those scientists heavily. It is highly profitable, makes them feel important, they get to pronounce on our salvation (how to save the enviroment and live a good life!) and get to wear ceremonial white robed while doing so. I'm not putting up with it. More carbon = more biomass = more life = we're not going extinct, earth lives. Less carbon = all the ice still goes away, earth still warms, we don't turn back anything, cause it was warming before we ever figured out how to make metal tools.
I am no longer afraid. Trump is the way forward. I won't stand for invading Russia, bad enough we invaded Libya. I'm not turning my back on Americans, as a American. A lot of illegals will get deported, but we will have far more than ever before entering legally, getting paid reasonable wages. When I lived in San Fransisco, I saw a lot of people extort Mexicans and Guatemalans .... break every damn labor law, no more of that. Our migrant labor will be legally approved, $9+ a hour (they legally must be paid well above minimum wage). Many organic food stores will dramatically have to raise costs, but many farmers will likewise have a chance to invest in new machinery. Its going to be good seeing over the next few years liberals losing their self actualization priorities as the rest of the country, and eventually mexico, moving out of fearful security issues as far as the needs pyramid goes. They've caused a lot of sick pain to this country, I can't wait till the 2018 election to see them loose more seats. I hope a more responsible counter party arises in their place, they've been nothing but problems since the civil war. If you have political parties, you need a good counter, but the Nixonian strategies of the Democrats isn't healthy at all. I hope it dies off, the lies and cultic beliefs die without the need for a myth crushing Leto Atreidies II to do it for us. We live in a incredibly stupid era, but Trump through his election does show us Democracy can still work, that we aren't completely lost and damned as a country, that we can still make a positive future. Too many gave up hope under Obama.... too many are now dead. I can't ever begin to figure out how much we list from his reign of terror. It just kept getting worst and worst. Worst years of my life. Too much duffering, too many bullshit lies. Through Trump, we all busted out of Shawshank.
One more time:
The American declaration of independence was more a plutocratic power grab than a struggle against colonial oppression. The founding fathers reckoned they could do much better at exploiting the potential wealth of the American continent by divesting themselves of the supervision of an English parliament three thousand miles away.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Struggle-Power-American-Revolution/dp/0679776427
https://newrepublic.com/article/137310/founding-fathers-power-grab
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