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Spoilers STAR TREK BEYOND - Grading & Discussion
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Odd how people's perception of movies are. Everyone says Beyond is better than STID and that STID got "Weak or mixed" reviews...but of course reality tells a different story. So far, Beyond is liked by 85% of viewers, a good score to be sure, but Into Darkness was at 90%. The RT score was 87% till recently and it's metacritic score tired it for second all-time on the Trek movie list.
According to this, he is briefly seen as a doctor.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...vie-ship-doctor-ahead-work-Bayern-Munich.html
I thought Earth ships like his NX Franklin didn't even have shields yet so I doubt Krall would know enough about that from his time as MACO or captain. Polarized hull plating is mentioned, isn't it?
I think the technology he found on the planet was just advanced enough for it not to be an issue.
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Some more thoughts about the movie:
+ Structurally I found it nice to have Kirk and Krall in an extended fist fight in what seemed like the first 15 minutes of the movie – you don't see that too often in action movies.
+ So were Krall's drones merely androids?
+ With the way Nimoy-Spock was shown to get into the Jellyfish ship in the Star Trek (2009) flashbacks, I somehow don't imagine he had the time to pack the crew photo and take it to the Hobus star.
+ Am I misremembering or did all three of the movies end with the TOS theme and a CGI montage of planets and nebulae?
Decker isn't a pedophile. Please don't confuse the actor with the character.
+ Structurally I found it nice to have Kirk and Krall in an extended fist fight in what seemed like the first 15 minutes of the movie – you don't see that too often in action movies.
+ So were Krall's drones merely androids?
+ With the way Nimoy-Spock was shown to get into the Jellyfish ship in the Star Trek (2009) flashbacks, I somehow don't imagine he had the time to pack the crew photo and take it to the Hobus star.
+ Am I misremembering or did all three of the movies end with the TOS theme and a CGI montage of planets and nebulae?
Would that make sense, though? I mean what with her speaking a language the universal translator doesn't seem to know at first?
Decker isn't a pedophile. Please don't confuse the actor with the character.It seems as if Krall and his crew are being genetically reprogrammed by the DNA of whatever alien they "consume" ... maybe that includes character traits and language? That would also explain why Krall was acting like a madman, and why Edison seemed to have second thoughts on killing the Yorktown inhabitants.
They could have even photoshopped Arex and M'Ress in Decker's and Ilia's places.
Such as this one:
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You mean like this one (illustrating an old fanfic of mine from 1980)?:
TMP by Ian McLean, on Flickr
I think this kind of reasoning helped me accept Krall's motivation. Once he found the alien technology and started consuming different species to extend his life, he just got more and more confused and messed up. That explains why he was such a hateful man full of conflict.
It's not like he integrated all these different cultures into his personality in a peaceful way. He consumed and murdered them for it (out of a nasty need for self-conservation) so obviously conflict really was the only way for species to deal with each other.
So it's not the case of humans being better than other species or "multiculturalism" being bad but just him choosing an awful, awful way to integrate different species into whatever he was in the end. The way he chose was violent so the end result was violent and shaped his view on the universe.
I think they said she was the admiral of the Yorktown base, so if Kirk had been promoted to vice-admiral of the base, that would have made him her first officer, in a sense. Sheesh, he does seem to get offered huge rank jumps a lot in this reality; Cadet to Captain in only a few days, then Admiral five years later - whoa!!
She was referred to as "Commodore Paris", so Kirk clearly would have outranked her. I don't think that Commodore Paris would have stayed on the Yorktown base, she would probably have moved on to take another command somewhere else.
Why Kirk was offered a promotion to Vice Admiral instead of Commodore ... I have no idea!
Same here.
Also does any one think engineering was understaffed?
Many people simply don't know the rank Commodore very well. I think it's obvious to everybody that Vice-Admiral is a step up from Captain. But especially people outside the US aren't that familiar with military ranks since we don't really spend as much time thinking about the military.
But they already had Commodore Paris as the Starbase Commander, although her name and rank wasn't mentioned until the end of the movie. Had they mentioned it earlier, everyone in the audience would have understood that Kirk was being promoted to Commodore if he wanted to command the Yorktown base.
Vice-Admiral is still easier to understand and sexier to a regular audience who knows fuck all about military ranks.
Going to see this in 30 mins at the local imax.
I have mixed feelings about the film. I will do a full post when I have got my head around what I just watched.
One of the common complaints I have heard about Star Trek: Voyager is the fact the writers did not really address what would happened to a crew on an extended mission. This film addressed what would happened - crew members would become intimate with each other and there would be relationship angst amongst the crew members. Nice touch there.
This film has, for me, cemented Chris Pine as the 21st century Kirk. (My mother and I have spoken about how Pine is maturing as an actor. We both like him in the film "The Finest Hours".)
This film has, for me, cemented Chris Pine as the 21st century Kirk. (My mother and I have spoken about how Pine is maturing as an actor. We both like him in the film "The Finest Hours".)
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