They need to do something unique for their era. AGT was marginally ok, aside from the pants, but STO does not appeal to me at all.And on the subject of uniforms, I hope that the Starfleet getups of 2399 are not the same as those godawful AGT/The Visitor/Endgame uniforms. With their pants hiked up to their armpits, it looked like my grandpa designed them. I also hope they don't make those STO uniforms. Way too videogame-y for me.
Actually, no he isn’t. The Vulcan Landing craft from First Contact can be seen in the background of ‘Lethe’
They also kept the same Andorian emblem from ENT
A lot of the Klingon lore comes from the Berman era as well
Fair point regarding Klingon lore, but the rest is just set dressing/easter egg stuff, like the NX-shuttle in Beyond.Actually, no he isn’t. The Vulcan Landing craft from First Contact can be seen in the background of ‘Lethe’
They also kept the same Andorian emblem from ENT
A lot of the Klingon lore comes from the Berman era as well
How's it negative saying Picard is the first thing they've truly imported from Berman Trek?Sshhhh!! Don't get in the way of his attempt to be overly negative!
Fair point regarding Klingon lore, but the rest is just set dressing/easter egg stuff, like the NX-shuttle in Beyond.
How's it negative saying Picard is the first thing they've truly imported from Berman Trek?
If only they treated something like the USS Enterprise with the same kind of reverence they do far-background ships 90% of viewers don't notice.Easter eggs or not, they're still imported from Berman Trek. You just can't please people. You want visual continuity, but when you get it, it doesn't count?
I like Discovery a lot. It's CBS insistence it's the same world as TOS I take issue with. If pointing out the numerous and obvious contradictions between Disco and the rest of Trek makes Disco my punching bag...Because it isn't true, as pointed out above, and you love to treat Discovery as your personal punching bag for no reason. It grows tiresome to read.
New ship please! K? Thx!
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It would of course be the first major thing.How's it negative saying Picard is the first thing they've truly imported from Berman Trek?
Patrick Stewart is the very first thing from the classic Berman-era continuity that they've elected to keep.
Namedrops and set dressing. And in the case of the Klingons or even the Defiant, rebooted and unrecognizable.USS Shran, House of D'Ghor, House of Mo'Kai, Chateau Picard, Holo-communication, bat'leths, suus mahna, Cardassian vole, Corvan II, Benzar, Jonathan Archer, Daystrom Institute, Zaldans, Grazer, Betazed, quantum signatures, isiks, USS Defiant in the mirror universe, emergency transporter, Enterprise NX-01 visiting Qo'noS, Lunar colonies, Molor, Mintaka III, Nausicaans, darseks, Trill, Section 31, latinum, visors, Barzans, Carrington Award, Okuda Award, Legate's Crest of Honor, pattern enhancers, Bolians, Starbase 36, World War III in 2053, metreon particles, Risa, Boreth, House of Mogh, Klingon Chancellor, Lady Lukara, Tau Ceti, and combadges all are references to the Berman era (TNG-Enterprise, not including the final TOS movies).
While originally an invention of DS9, Discovery's version of Section 31 is straight out of Star Trek Into Darkness, where they're a legitiate division of Starfleet complete with high tech black ships.Section 31 is probably the biggest Berman reference on the show. Sarek, while a TOS character, received much of his characterization and backstory in TNG episodes.
None of those are continuing their original character.And if you're talking actors, then Tasia Valenza has Stewart beat as the only other Berman era actor to appear in Discovery. Clint Howard, too, but he was a TOS actor first. And Alex Daniels, but he's a stuntman.
And in the case of the Klingons or even the Defiant, rebooted and unrecognizable.
Discovery's version of Section 31 is straight out of Star Trek Into Darkness, where they're a legitimate division of Starfleet complete with high tech black ships.
USS Shran, House of D'Ghor, House of Mo'Kai, Chateau Picard, Holo-communication, bat'leths, suus mahna, Cardassian vole, Corvan II, Benzar, Jonathan Archer, Daystrom Institute, Zaldans, Grazer, Betazed, quantum signatures, isiks, USS Defiant in the mirror universe, emergency transporter, Enterprise NX-01 visiting Qo'noS, Lunar colonies, Molor, Mintaka III, Nausicaans, darseks, Trill, Section 31, latinum, visors, Barzans, Carrington Award, Okuda Award, Legate's Crest of Honor, pattern enhancers, Bolians, Starbase 36, World War III in 2053, metreon particles, Risa, Boreth, House of Mogh, Klingon Chancellor, Lady Lukara, Tau Ceti, and combadges all are references to the Berman era (TNG-Enterprise, not including the final TOS movies).
Section 31 is probably the biggest Berman reference on the show. Sarek, while a TOS character, received much of his characterization and backstory in TNG episodes.
And if you're talking actors, then Tasia Valenza has Stewart beat as the only other Berman era actor to appear in Discovery. Clint Howard, too, but he was a TOS actor first. And Alex Daniels, but he's a stuntman.
They're not unrecognizable at all.
Eh? S31 in Into Darkness wasn't an legitimate organization.
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