Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by Turd Ferguson, Jan 24, 2019.
They need to do something unique for their era. AGT was marginally ok, aside from the pants, but STO does not appeal to me at all.
I’d love to see the Odyssey uniforms with the white.
A new ship, if it is going to have one, would be in order I think. Either Picard has a new, sleek vessel that you can tell is more advanced from the TNG era (still has some resemblence). Or his new position isnt high priority, so all it gets him is an old bucket of bolts like a Galaxy or Intrepid. Preferably something "new" from that era that is old and beat up.
Sshhhh!! Don't get in the way of his attempt to be overly negative!
Fair point regarding Klingon lore, but the rest is just set dressing/easter egg stuff, like the NX-shuttle in Beyond.
How's it negative saying Picard is the first thing they've truly imported from Berman Trek?
How about giving Picard the Stargazer? Big nostalgia for him and nice call back to Kirk and his love for the original Enterprise. The ship could take Picard on diplomatic missions in his role as ambassador.
Easter eggs or not, they're still imported from Berman Trek. You just can't please people. You want visual continuity, but when you get it, it doesn't count?
Because it isn't true, as pointed out above, and you love to treat Discovery as your personal punching bag for no reason. It grows tiresome to read.
If only they treated something like the USS Enterprise with the same kind of reverence they do far-background ships 90% of viewers don't notice.
I like Discovery a lot. It's CBS insistence it's the same world as TOS I take issue with. If pointing out the numerous and obvious contradictions between Disco and the rest of Trek makes Disco my punching bag...
Star Trek needs less reverence not more.
New ship please! Okay? Thx!
Edit and updated: Fixed - not to be confused with an Enterprise 1701-K...
So that's one vote for the Enterprise-K. Got it.
The show should open up with Picard, La Forge, and, I guess, Ro Laren, at the christening of the Enterprise-F, only for disaster to strike and Captain Edward Jellico, Jr. turns out to be completely inept. Then Picard finds himself briefly in command before disappearing into a random space anomaly.
For the Picard Show, CBS can bring the NX-01 out of moth-balls and have that be Picard's personal transport. The already have the CGI for it and would not have to create a new ship.
It would of course be the first major thing.
USS Shran, House of D'Ghor, House of Mo'Kai, Chateau Picard, Holo-communication, bat'leths, suus mahna, Cardassian vole, Corvan II, Benzar, Jonathan Archer, Daystrom Institute, Zaldans, Grazer, Betazed, quantum signatures, isiks, USS Defiant in the mirror universe, emergency transporter, Enterprise NX-01 visiting Qo'noS, Lunar colonies, Molor, Mintaka III, Nausicaans, darseks, Trill, Section 31, latinum, visors, Barzans, Carrington Award, Okuda Award, Legate's Crest of Honor, pattern enhancers, Bolians, Starbase 36, World War III in 2053, metreon particles, Risa, Boreth, House of Mogh, Klingon Chancellor, Lady Lukara, Tau Ceti, and combadges all are references to the Berman era (TNG-Enterprise, not including the final TOS movies).
Section 31 is probably the biggest Berman reference on the show. Sarek, while a TOS character, received much of his characterization and backstory in TNG episodes.
And if you're talking actors, then Tasia Valenza has Stewart beat as the only other Berman era actor to appear in Discovery. Clint Howard, too, but he was a TOS actor first. And Alex Daniels, but he's a stuntman.
Namedrops and set dressing. And in the case of the Klingons or even the Defiant, rebooted and unrecognizable.
While originally an invention of DS9, Discovery's version of Section 31 is straight out of Star Trek Into Darkness, where they're a legitiate division of Starfleet complete with high tech black ships.
None of those are continuing their original character.
They're not unrecognizable at all.
Eh? S31 in Into Darkness wasn't an legitimate organization.
You had me at Jonathan Archer.
I'd bet that if you showed the DSC Klingons (and their ships) to a Star Trek fan who'd never seen or even heard of DSC, they would most likely think that they were some other race of aliens.
They had a huge building right there on Earth where Mickey went to work every day. That's not exactly a super-secret organization keeping out of the public eye.
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