Which hero ship would you want to see in the Picard show?

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by Turd Ferguson, Jan 24, 2019.

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Which ship should Picard command?

  1. Enterprise-E (old, no refit)

    7 vote(s)
    11.7%
  2. Enterprise-E refit

    6 vote(s)
    10.0%
  3. Enterprise-F

    2 vote(s)
    3.3%
  4. Enterprise-G

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Enterprise-H

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Enterprise-I

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Enterprise-J

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Different ship, not the Enterprise

    23 vote(s)
    38.3%
  9. No ship

    22 vote(s)
    36.7%
  1. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Wasn't the actual facility deep underground?

    Kirk and Spock had never heard of the organization before
     
  2. Dukhat

    Dukhat Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Two people who've never heard of a secret organization is hardly proof that said organization is completely secret to everyone.
     
  3. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    They are considering they look different in what is supposedly the same continuity.
    It was "a top secret branch of Starfleet", under the control of the head of Starfleet, complete with underground arms caches and shipbuilding facilities. Compare to DS9, where it was a rogue organisation with no headquarters and no oversight.

    Discovery's Section 31 is common knowledge among offers and last episode they answered to Admiral Cornwell.
     
  4. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Commodore Commodore

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    It's a pretty good sign though, since one of those two people is Spock (and Kirk isn't an idiot, he would know the name of Starfleet intelligence agencies). Section 31, in DS9 and the Kelvinverse, is presented as a secret police that keep their existence secret. The head of Section 31, also the head of Starfleet, reveals their existence to Kirk and Spock as part of his plotting, but also says it was a "top-secret branch", meaning, I gather, that only a select few are even aware of its existence.

    Unlike Discovery, the Kelvinverse does a good job at keeping the mystery around 31 and maintaining it as a rogue agency. Especially if we remember that Marcus is lying most of the time.
     
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  5. CommanderRaytas

    CommanderRaytas DISCO QUEEEEEEN Premium Member

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    Klingons: come on, be fair. In TOS, they were dudes with brown facepaint. You could argue the same every time there's a change in optics.

    Section 31: no, Mickey worked at the library. That was officially very much not at all Section 31.
     
  6. Dukhat

    Dukhat Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The DSC Klingons get a pass from me, because there was a specific story reason why they needed to be changed so radically. But if there wasn't, there's absolutely no reason why they couldn't have looked exactly like humans (oily facepainted skin not withstanding). With enough Klingon-like garb, sashes and weapons, they would have looked fine.

    How did he get into the Section 31 facility without being spotted?
     
  7. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Commodore Commodore

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    Officially, that building in London was an archive. Harewood worked at the archive. Really, though, he was 31.
     
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  8. CommanderRaytas

    CommanderRaytas DISCO QUEEEEEEN Premium Member

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    He worked there, but publicly, it wasn't Section 31. Section 31 was inside the archive or library or whatever.

    As for the Klingons, I guess I just don't care if their look changes or not, as long as the stories still work.
     
  9. WarpFactorZ

    WarpFactorZ Commodore Commodore

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    As far as the general public knows, he walked into a building labeled "Kelvin Memorial Archive", passed through security, and got in a turbolift. He went down when they presumably thought he went up.

    That being said, it's odd to hide a giant super-secret underground lab in the middle of London. It would be more appropriate to stick in in the Nevada desert, say...
     
  10. Dukhat

    Dukhat Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    ...or on another planet entirely.
     
  11. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Commodore Commodore

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    That's the last place you'd expect to look. That said, it might've been some MI-6 underground bunker, back in the day, carved out and expanded.
     
  12. iliescu

    iliescu Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Either the NX-01 or a New Hero ship that follows through after Picard in its own series. Would be pretty stunning if have the imagination for it.