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Was TNG less progressive than TOS?
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I weigh more than Kirk. It doesn't for a second mean I can beat Kira in a fight, realistically speaking. Weight alone does not make it realistic.
Plus, again, Kira's not even human.
You know I am not saying that weight is the only factor, that is misleading. Both trained in fighting skills, just one is bigger and stronger. So, they are no were near the same in a fight. And, you are really not part of the equation. So, yes, they are very different.
Was there a point you were going to make with that statement? Or, are just throwing that out there for fun?
One is bigger, how much stronger he is remains unproven. He's also much older and way more out of shape. And his 'training' would appear to be a complete joke based on the absolutely ridiculous way he fights. In terms of realism, he is not one iota 'better'.
Also, your complaint about Kira is that she fights people who (in your opinion) should be stronger than her. Kirk, no matter how strong he might be compared to Kira, ALSO fights aliens who clearly are intended to be FAR stronger than he is.
I don't recall that it was ever established how strong Kira is in comparison with her human counterparts. Or in comparison to either Dax, for that matter. Nor do I recall it being established that Bajoran females tend to be less physically strong than Bajoran males. Maybe you could cite one or more episodes that do?
OK, this Kira/Kirk stuff has run its course. Enough.
Well, I just have to go with standard norms, like the average male being stronger than the average female, there's nothing else to go on. It sounds like you are talking about older Kirk from the movies. My original point was not specifically about Kira, it was an overall observation. It just seems like whoever the women are fighting are the Red Shirts of combat. You are going to lose. But, for all we know, women have been genetically engineered in the 24th century to have the same strength as men. Or Starfleet only accepts women with MMA level skills. That would explain it.
No, I don't think they've ever said anything that would indicate Bajorans to be any stronger than humans. Vulcans, yes, many times. Klingons? Well, yes and no, whenever it's convenient, I guess. I just figure Worf was strong because he was big and muscular. Data, was way stronger. There is a wide range among humans. Maybe, overall, they should just cast people that are bit bigger and more in shape if they want them to do a lot of fighting, like Gina Carano in the Mandalorian. No problem believing she could could win fights!
Size matters not.
I asked you to drop the Kirk/Kira stuff but here you are again. Further similar posts will earn you a Spamming warning, it’s not even TNG related.
My apologies. I guess I got carried away with having a lively discussion on a discussion board.
I can't recall Sisko asking Kira to open a jar of pickles for him.
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You can be guaranteed with humans that if we ever do meet aliens the first thing we will do is make a pornhub category about them
Right after we attempt to subjugate them...........
That's because Sisko prefers his pickles unvaporized.
Which would assume for 600 years all of Picard's ancestors came from one place...France, considering in 2020 the number of people from the EU and other backgrounds who are making babies together Picard's ancestors should be a mixture of Nigerian, Ghanian, Afro Caribbean, French, British and Slovakian and coming from a UE where global migration is as easy as catching a bus he would be a 100% French as I am 100% Japanese (and both my parents, 4 grand parents and 8 great grand parents had brown skin and afro hair)
Because its the 24th century and perhaps in Betazoid culture its no big deal?
TNG holodeck = latest mobile Android phone
Little Janeway holodeck = the old rotary phone
Inject the Melanin challenged with melanin lol
Melanin challenged?
That's a bigoted statement for sure.
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