USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by EJD1984, Jul 24, 2017.

  1. WarpFactorZ

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    Discovery takes place in the mid 2250s. Quinto Spock is from the mid 2250s. Ergo he is a "younger Spock" than what we see in TOS.
     
  2. KirkusOveractus

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    To clarify: there are sequences in the trailer that has Burnham as a little girl. I was thinking Spock from that point in time, being younger than even Quinto's Spock.
     
  3. Spider

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    TOS first season is in 2266. Spock was born in 2230. In 2256 when Discovery takes place, Spock is in his mid-20s. Do we know the supposed age of Burnham yet? It would "appear", in earth years, that Burnham would be at least 10 years older than Spock.

    I'm sure yall will correct me if I'm wrong. :guffaw:
     
  4. KirkusOveractus

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    There is a segment shown in the trailers that is taking place before 2256. Burnham is a little girl.

    Did anyone else watch the trailer? For people who are supposed to be so detail oriented, I think you'd notice seeing Burnham as a little girl multiple times in both trailers!
     
  5. fireproof78

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    Just you wait....:vulcan:
     
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    So how old is Burnham then? Do we know? She appears in her mid to late 30s to me, which means as a very young child as displayed in the trailer, Spock wouldn't have been born yet.
     
  7. Nyotarules

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    Sarek had no son at that time. He ignored him for 18 logical years.
     
  8. N-121973

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    This :).
    I watched 'Through a Mirror Darkly' parts 1 & 2 a couple of weeks ago and I have to say the USS Defiant rendered in CGI with a greyish hull and the appropriate shadow and lighting effects looked great. She looks more sophisticated than the NX-01. There's nothing wrong with the external appearance of the TOS Constitution class, so long as there is the right level of detail. To whit:

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    And then there's this one of the Enterprise that's presumably fan-made. They could easily have made the Discovery a 'Connie' with this level of detail.
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    How about with the Discovery's view screen at full magnification? :devil:

    As long as he shouts "THE WOMEN!" at some point in the episode I'll be all for it. Just one question, would he be wearing his 'Cage' or 'Where No Man Has Gone Before' uniform?
     
  9. fireproof78

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    Clearly he is still a junior officer, so it has to be a Cage uniform.
     
  10. Jesse1066

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    That's from Trials and Tribble-ations, and it's easily my favorite canon depiction of the pre-refit Constitution.
     
  11. Mirror Mirror

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    Still looked dated and less advanced than the NX. The design looks primative, its forms scream 1960 and unless it is updated will look as goofy and campy as it does there. It looks like a corvette (the NX) is next to a model T (the connie)
     
  12. Starship

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    I think that something in the line with Vektor´s version of the Enterprise would do the job. :)

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    Something in line with Madkoi´s version would be fine too:

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    The version built by Rick "Madman" Wallace would serves for inspiration too:

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    All of them are good examples of how you can modernize the old lady and still recognizes her. ;)
     
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  13. Jadeb

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    People in the future may look back and boggle that we hadn't figured out how to avoid seams and piecemeal plating on our spaceship exteriors. Like how we now view the candy-colored bridge buttons -- why don't they have touchscreens?!?
     
  14. Jesse1066

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    Well, you can't use a touchscreen by feel, you have to be looking at it to use it. That could be a disadvantage in situations where you need to be looking elsewhere, so I think using touchscreens and buttons makes the most sense.
     
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    Yes, for some reason we have been conditioned by SF of the last few decades to think that a bunch of cluttered junk on the exterior of a ship makes it look more advanced and futuristic, when advancement should tend toward the exact opposite.

    Nobody thinks an iphone looks primitive because of its smooth, streamlined, unadorned design. Yet it's the same with the original starship Enterprise.

    Kor
     
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    Voyager at least had an optional tactile interface, Tuvok used it when he was blinded.

    It was probably some sort of braille like thing.
     
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    My bad I thought it was someone's homemade attempt. There really are some very good ones of those out there.

    I disagree with that. Certainly with 1960s levels of TV VFX and the original milky-white hull colour, but I've watched episodes of TOSR as well as appearances by TOS Connies in the spin-off shows and she looks way more sophisticated than the NX-01 in many of those. And certainly looks good enough in my opnion to be used in a contemporary film/TV show. I will agree with you that internally the TOS Enterprise hasn't aged well. In particular the bridge and engineering spaces. That's because of the colour-pallet - designed to flog colour TVs in the day - and the replacement of working viewing screens in 'The Cage' with papier mache cut-out pictures of space scenes made it look bad. When I watched 'Tomorrow is Yesterday' on Blu-Ray last week in the scene when the bridge is in darkness near the start of the episode when they first come to, you can see the wrinkles in the clear plastic covering the space photos. If they'd stuck to the Bridge from the first pilot sans the gooseneck viewers and with a larger, more rectangular screen it would have aged much better than the definitive TOS bridge.
     
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  18. Jadeb

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    It makes even less sense in a future with replicators. Why would there need to be so many little pieces? Had we not had the scenes of people working in spacedocks, I might have imagined they beamed the whole ship into existence at once.
     
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  19. KirkusOveractus

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    You mention those bridge screens: I forget if it was budget, timing, or not looking as good as they wanted, but when TOS-R was being worked on, they did say that they would try to get the screens all around the bridge to look better as well.
     
  20. Jesse1066

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    The interior color scheme in 'The Cage' is pretty close to Phase II/TMP. It's a pretty good look, even if it's not very 2017.
    This sounds like it will be an interesting discussion...