I'd say it was a toilet or shower based on that description, but I don't think those were ever even mentioned!
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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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I think on paper your idea is interesting but I'm skeptical about the reality. Maybe if someone with more computer skills than I could put the DSC and the Connie in a "scene" together?
True, we still haven't gotten a very good look at the Discovery. That's my one big issue with the DSC marketing so far.
No, its fact. The connie was the first ship and it looks its. From a design point of view it shows its age. The design forums are simplistic and plain. Even next to the NX the NX forms and shape is newer, its simply a design issue. You can't place a model T next to something 50 years newer based off the model T and claim the Model T is more advanced. It simply does not work.
Look at it objectively, not as a fan, not as someone who "Know" the connie is supposed to be from 2240 and the NX is supposed to be from 2150. You can not honestly look at those shapes and not see which is the newer and more modern design
Since the Ford Model T was in production from 1908-1927, that is absolutely not an apt comparison. 
The 1960s-era design aesthetic of the original Enterprise reflected the sleek, minimalist, streamlined, forward-thinking modernism of the era combined with a sense of no-frills military utilitarianism.
The NX-01 design was of course influenced by the P-38, a WWII fighter plane dating back to 1939. Eaves or Drexler pointed this out to those who were whining at the time that the NX-01 looked "too advanced." It is most definitely meant to be a precursor to the Constitution Class, even if the surface detailing is more in line with what would today's audiences expect from a contemporary production. But the fact that it has such a cluttered, clunky exterior should in itself point to it being more primitive.
Kor
The 1960s-era design aesthetic of the original Enterprise reflected the sleek, minimalist, streamlined, forward-thinking modernism of the era combined with a sense of no-frills military utilitarianism.
The NX-01 design was of course influenced by the P-38, a WWII fighter plane dating back to 1939. Eaves or Drexler pointed this out to those who were whining at the time that the NX-01 looked "too advanced." It is most definitely meant to be a precursor to the Constitution Class, even if the surface detailing is more in line with what would today's audiences expect from a contemporary production. But the fact that it has such a cluttered, clunky exterior should in itself point to it being more primitive.
Kor
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A Model T style starship (as oppose to the just saying its the Model T because its the first one seen), would have basically no covering over the warp nacelles They've be entirely exposed to space for maximum field coverage and ability to radiate everything out. There wouldn't be a saucer per say, but a simple command level with no frills. The engineering hull would likely also have a lot of its potential radiation sources exposed to space. There would be a strapped on shuttle on the side of the ship. And the ship would come in any color, as long as it was black.
Looks fine to me.
Source HERE
But Sybok...
Well, it has to be big to carry all those colonists fleeing from the Cylons.
(Cue All Along the Watchtower on Sytar)
Nope, opinion.
I can, and it is the Constitution.
And that is my opinion, not fact. You're free to feel however you want about it.
But since Discovery is re-imagining everything, putting the Connie in it without any changes doesn't make any sense.
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Since the Ford Model T was in production from 1908-1927, that is absolutely not an apt comparison.
The 1960s-era design aesthetic of the original Enterprise reflected the sleek, minimalist, streamlined, forward-thinking modernism of the era combined with a sense of no-frills military utilitarianism.
The NX-01 design was of course influenced by the P-38, a WWII fighter plane dating back to 1939. Eaves or Drexler pointed this out to those who were whining at the time that the NX-01 looked "too advanced." It is most definitely meant to be a precursor to the Constitution Class, even if the surface detailing is more in line with what would today's audiences expect from a contemporary production. But the fact that it has such a cluttered, clunky exterior should in itself point to it being more primitive.
Kor
No the model T is a good example as most trek ships are Based off the Connie and it shows this. The Connie is not sleek, she is simplistic, its like calling the Model T sleek because it lacks details and other advancements that came later. The Connie is not an Ipod, she is a box.
The NX, is clear based off the connie, sure she has a twin tail, which is the only P-38 thing about the design, but then connie has a twin "tail" as well. The design is far, far too sleek and advanced design wise to pass as older than the TOS Connie. You are talking what is know the classic Trek "Aztec" hull, I am not talking texture, I am speaking design, style and shapes. The connie will always look more primitive until the hull shapes are changed, as they did in the "Refit"
No, the Connie is the Model T of starship designs, they radically updated the shapes after it. And the Model T had engine covers. I helped hall an old one out of a Barn, they were covered. You can not look at starship design and not see this, the connie has very basic, simple shapes. Its just plain and primitive, which makes sense as it was first. Look at the changes in the TMP remake and total redesign of the class. They are not the same class at all other than basic shapes.
And that image, which is likely badly off scale, shows how primitive and old the connie is, that is not 10 year design difference, that is decades, many, many decades.
No man, it is fact. As someone who has studied design, I can tell you its glaringly obvious. I am not hating on the TOS connie, but the shapes will always scream primitive and old next to anything coming after it because they are. All federation ships are based in some way off that design. Once more look at the shape of a Model T vs a car design 4 or 5 decades after, its basic shapes here man. Basic design.
Nah, that scale must be off, that would make the windows like 60 feet across or something. It was likely meant to be a perspective view with the Connie in the distance.
A fictional design for a TV show pretty much does.
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