The Women of The Trek

[psCargile]

Are the strong women the ones that exhibit toxic masculinity?

 

[StefanM]

Why did the female regulars have to be romantically interested in anyone?
Why couldn't they just be there to do their job? Why couldn't Chapel be there just as an excellent nurse or doctor?
Why did Rand have to keep trying to get Kirk's attention?

Just like real people: Nobody just lives for his job. Most people are looking for love, family, a partner, or just sex. Why should they be any different?
And it's not just the women, the men are just the same:
Geordi and Harry always hoped for a woman, but (almost) never got one. The Doctor always wanted Seven, but never got her. Odo loved Kira for a long time, until she finally developed feelings for him.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

You missed the point.

Fully clothed women are pornographic to Ferengi.

Porn is something private and controlled.

Having random porn forced on you, in the case of Quark and Rom, by their mother, is jarring.

Men don't get together to watch porn, and men don't admit their fetish and proclivities to strangers, because that offends women and shows weakness.

Brothers don't get together to watch porn of their mother.

Starship Captains are decent people, usually, and that holds true for the Ferengi who did not want to sexually exploit women by leaving them dressed.

Fully clothed women weren’t pornographic, they found it offensive because to them women were not worthy of clothing.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

They were "nice" but hardly strong women. Good women and good at their jobs (at least Crusher- who knows what Troi was meant to do but good at counseling)
They would always defer to the male characters.
I think they made say Crusher hide behind Picard on away missions to make him look tougher. Other female characters like Ro weren't there to dote over the men so they could have stronger roles.

Let’s not assume the only form of strength is physical toughness. That’s just taking an androcentric view of power and applying it it to women. Aggressiveness is only one form of strength.

 

[1001001]

Fully clothed women weren’t pornographic, they found it offensive because to them women were not worthy of clothing.

In The Last Outpost, it certainly came across as the Ferengi thinking it was sexually inappropriate.

He said something like "They're inviting you to undress them with your eyes" or something to that effect.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

It always seemed to me like a symbol of subjugation. At least that is the takeaway I get from Ishka’s refusal to not wear clothes except to make Rom happy. Refusing nudity seemed attached to her refusal not to earn profit, a statement of equality.

Maybe it’s a complex of both. Women can’t wear clothes because it’s a privilege of the superior men, and therefore bucking that trend became a kinky thing in private.

 

[Delta Vega]

That sounds like it should be a title for a reality TV series.

Nothing wrong with beautiful people on Star Trek but if thats all there is to the women you might as well watch "Love Island".

I was being a trifle frivolous

 

[Tim Thomason]

Later in the chronology there's a more efficient radiation filter in the transportor.

Yeah, the bio-gel scenes were ridiculous. Why would they be wearing underwear? They should've been au naturel and utilized some type of car wash-like system that completely covered them in the gel and then washed it off at the appropriate time.

And the only creature ever shown to be completely naked in the chamber (Porthos) still manages to contract and almost die from an alien virus.