The Post-Burn Galaxy thread or "Post-Apocalypse or Slightly Used?"

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

This?

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Final_Frontier

 

[Turtletrekker]

I have serious memory ache going on.
Can anyone remember which potential showrunner pitched a new Trek series or film maybe 15 or 20 years ago set in a post-disaster Federation. Maybe an earlier time period, but the premise was about reconnecting lost colonies and outposts. IIRC it went into early development and was then dropped, possibly in favour of ST09. I remember reading about it. I'd like to read about it again.....Thanks if you can help.

Was it animated?

Update on Star Trek: Final Frontier – The New Star Trek Animated Series That Never Was

Back in December 2006 TrekMovie posted a story about a possible web animated series being developed byDavid Rossi, Doug Mirabello and José Muñoz. Later called "Star Trek: Final Frontier" the project essentially died with the 2007 layoffs at StarTrek.com. Now in a new interview and on their new...

trekmovie.com

 

[tenmei]

I have serious memory ache going on.
Can anyone remember which potential showrunner pitched a new Trek series or film maybe 15 or 20 years ago set in a post-disaster Federation. Maybe an earlier time period, but the premise was about reconnecting lost colonies and outposts. IIRC it went into early development and was then dropped, possibly in favour of ST09. I remember reading about it. I'd like to read about it again.....Thanks if you can help.

You may need to narrow the field but it sounds like -

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Final_Frontier

And

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Federation

 

[CT_Phipps]

The Writer's aren't the smartest tulips in the field..

Some things are just like.. Huh? in Tng, they littery gave the old guy a portable replicator. hinting its not power hungry enough to need a/m power.

But 800 years latter theres a food shortage? WHY? THey didn't have A/M reactors.. Ok? But that just effects FTL flight mainly. Fusion reactors are a dime a dozen, DS9 was NOT A/m powered, just Fusion reactors. and got along just fine. Plenty of fuel in gas giants.. I mean.. ???

That and no comunications? Huh? don't need a reactor to breach subspace.

That and so many non warp technologys like Transwarp beaming, (Prime Mr. Scott done the formula) and a bunch of other stuff.

I mean it would suck in that places would become more isolated, but in system wouldn't change that much, power wouldn't be an issue, food no issue. etc.

I don't know..

Yeah, they should have made it way more apocalyptic. Like go full on Galadriel opening narration to the Lord of the Rings:

"The transpwarp corridors exploded, destroying whole sectors. Trillions died. But that was not what was worst. No, what was worst what came afterward...that was when the old evils all returned."

Lay into the whole century of civil war, plague, and starvation.

This is the Time War of the Star Trek franchise (other than the OTHER time war) and should be less detailed and more spoken of in a hushed whisper.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Yeah, they should have made it way more apocalyptic. Like go full on Galadriel opening narration to the Lord of the Rings:

"The transpwarp corridors exploded, destroying whole sectors. Trillions died. But that was not what was worst. No, what was worst what came afterward...that was when the old evils all returned."

It's funny DIS season 3 offhandedly implied the Federation had built its own transwarp corridor network (or perhaps rebuilt the wrecked Borg one), but when Osyraa nonsensically caught up to Discovery outside the Verubin Nebula, she never made any snarky expository comment of "I hate navigating those transwarp corridor messes." or "I didn't burn a decade's supply of benamite crystals to let you get away now."

 

[Arvis Tadjik]

It's funny DIS season 3 offhandedly implied the Federation had built its own transwarp corridor network (or perhaps rebuilt the wrecked Borg one), but when Osyraa nonsensically caught up to Discovery outside the Verubin Nebula, she never made any snarky expository comment of "I hate navigating those transwarp corridor messes." or "I didn't burn a decade's supply of benamite crystals to let you get away now."

Those corridors are also full of ship debris, which makes very little sense for three reasons:

(1) Would the Burn really affect ships currently in a transwarp corridor considering they're isolated from both normal space and subspace?

(2) Why were there so many ships in ALL of the transwarp network at the moment the Burn occurred to cause them ALL to be filled with the debris of multiple ships EACH?

(3) It's shown in VOY that debris in a transwarp corridor is carried through to the terminus and then ejected into normal space, so why is all that junk just chilling in there?

 

[Fateor]

Those corridors are also full of ship debris, which makes very little sense for three reasons:

(1) Would the Burn really affect ships currently in a transwarp corridor considering they're isolated from both normal space and subspace?

(2) Why were there so many ships in ALL of the transwarp network at the moment the Burn occurred to cause them ALL to be filled with the debris of multiple ships EACH?

(3) It's shown in VOY that debris in a transwarp corridor is carried through to the terminus and then ejected into normal space, so why is all that junk just chilling in there?

(4) In all that time nobody thought to clean them up?

 

[CT_Phipps]

(4) In all that time nobody thought to clean them up?

4 seems to suffer from, "This is not a post apocalypse hellscape where people all act like Mad Max except for a few isolated pockets of civilization."

Which admittedly is a hard sell in Star Trek but one they keep saying about the Burn.

 

[Fateor]

4 seems to suffer from, "This is not a post apocalypse hellscape where people all act like Mad Max except for a few isolated pockets of civilization."

Which admittedly is a hard sell in Star Trek but one they keep saying about the Burn.

That doesn't really make sense.

After all, having a fixed entrance and exit would make transwarp conduits the equivalent of tunnels, and tunnels are prime targets in post apocalyptic settings for roving gangs to take over and charge people to use.

 

[CT_Phipps]

That doesn't really make sense.

After all, having a fixed entrance and exit would make transwarp conduits the equivalent of tunnels, and tunnels are prime targets in post apocalyptic settings for roving gangs to take over and charge people to use.

I have no rebuttal and concede.

 

[CT_Phipps]

EPISODE FOUR SPOILERS

Spoiler

It seems they've subtly tweaked the Burn by making dilithium-based reactors an ubiquitous thing.

Which means that in addition to all of the starships, hundreds if not thousands of worlds were also devastated.

Making it even more of a, "All of the nuclear plants in addition to all of the nuclear vessels have blown up."