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Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion

How would you rate Superman?

  • You'll believe a man can fly

    Votes: 25 30.1%
  • A

    Votes: 12 14.5%
  • A-

    Votes: 13 15.7%
  • B+

    Votes: 16 19.3%
  • B

    Votes: 8 9.6%
  • B-

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • C+

    Votes: 3 3.6%
  • C

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • C-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • D-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • A pocket full of Kryptonite

    Votes: 2 2.4%

  • Total voters
    83
I think I see Nighthawk there. The lady on the horse earlier on the timeline looks familiar but I can't place her. No idea who that early era speedster is.
 
Just seen it - So Lex didn't alter the message? Did James Gunn really change Superman's parents into being total A-Holes?
 
"Well, I don't think anyone is a total asshole."

Yep. Gunn says that if anyone's waiting for it to be revealed that ol' Jor and Lara didn't really say that, "They're shit outta luck." :lol:
 
Why do I get the feeling if Snyder tried that with Clark's parents - the fandom would have tried to burn his house down :eek:

That's a big shift change for Superman Lore? His Dad is basically Zod with that attitude.

Can't say I like it one bit but I guess it won't be mentioned again.
 
Why do I get the feeling if Snyder tried that with Clark's parents - the fandom would have tried to burn his house down :eek:

That's a big shift change for Superman Lore? His Dad is basically Zod with that attitude.

Can't say I like it one bit but I guess it won't be mentioned again.
Brian Bendis already established that Krypton was an imperialist civilization viewed as an oppressor to unite against by other worlds, and that Jor-El in particular was an elitist asshole who looked down on Earthlings. He also survived the destruction of Krypton, btw., and I think that is still canon to the current comics.
Although it might not be, Mark Waid has written some other stories since then featuring a more benevolent Jor-El who even disapproved of the use of the Phantom Zone as a prison.
Then again, Jor-El was a major factor in Jon Kent's premature aging-up (timey-wimey stuff), and that clearly happened, so whatever.
 
What I liked

* Nicholas Hoult is a brilliant Lex Luthor and probably the best version on film for me.

* Action scenes are easier to follow than Snyder's version.

* Krypto is wonderful.

* David Corenswet's & Rachel Brosnahan are really good as Clark/Superman & Lois.

* Guy Gardner/Green Lantern & Mr Terrific are really strong additions.

* Beautifully shot.

* I like that Jonathan Kent is alive

* Love the casting for Perry and Jimmy Olsen actually had something to do, which was cool.

* The interview scene with Clark & Lois was great and something we really needed in BVS.

* Liked the touch upon Social media mis use with troll/bot farms mirroring real life.

What I didn't like

* Superman felt a little weak for Superman.

* The start of the film made me feel like I had missed the actual start and the universe feels too far along - Something BVS got criticism for.

* Making his parents evil, in particular his dad. I loved what Snyder and Crowe did with Jor-El so this change was meh.

* Hawkgirl felt under developed as opposed to the other of the Justice Gang.

* Justice Gang sounds stupid but it does sound like a spinoff movie we might get in the style of Guardian of the Galaxy.

* Movie felt a little chaotic at times like the random battle with the little creature that became massive and the random squid thing that just pops up.

* Speaking of that squid thing --- The gag of the Gang fighting the giant squid thing in the background during a serious conversation with Lois/Clark was really stupid and inappropriate with the tone.

* Lex use of POWERFUL tech like making a pocket universe was way OTT and felt like cheap plot devices.

* The particle river thing in the pocket universe looked awful CGI wise and the alien baby CGI was horrendous.

* The music wasn't memorable like Hans Zimmer MoS

* Why doesn't Lex clone more Ultraman's to kill Superman?

* Supergirl is a drunk?
 
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