Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Dukhat]

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds Finale Season Was 'A Negotiation', With a Movie Option Also Discussed, Star Says - IGN

Various options for the future of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds have been discussed, including the possibility of a two-hour movie.

www.ign.com

So, first CBS/Paramount originally wanted to end the series after season 4, but the producers fought with them to get a fifth season. Then, CBS/Paramount shifted gears again and wanted to have a two hour series finale movie instead of a 10-episode fifth/final season, and the producers had to fight again to get 6 episodes instead?

This does not sound like CBS/Paramount wants to make Star Trek: Year One. Or a President Archer show. Or Star Trek Legacy. Or any of the other crap we've heard rumors about. This sounds like CBS/Paramount wants to end this show as quickly as humanly possible and cease making more.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Sadly, I agree.

 

[gweeps]

I can see the series finale being called, 'To Boldly Go'.

 

[Quinton]

So, first CBS/Paramount originally wanted to end the series after season 4, but the producers fought with them to get a fifth season. Then, CBS/Paramount shifted gears again and wanted to have a two hour series finale movie instead of a 10-episode fifth/final season, and the producers had to fight again to get 6 episodes instead?

This does not sound like CBS/Paramount wants to make Star Trek: Year One. Or a President Archer show. Or Star Trek Legacy. Or any of the other crap we've heard rumors about. This sounds like CBS/Paramount wants to end this show as quickly as humanly possible and cease making more.

I don’t get the impression they shifted gears from a fifth-season greenlight toward a two-hour movie greenlight. My understanding is that season four was set to be the end, but with a two-hour movie as a financially acceptable way to end things on the writers’ terms. When the producers made it clear that two hours wouldn’t be enough, negotiations were tight, but ultimately, a truncated fifth season was approved.

Which likely would not have been in the cards if Paramount wanted to wash its hands of Star Trek on TV altogether. And is it really fair to call all that stuff “crap” and rumours? Ignoring people who try to sell the idea that any of this will ever actually happen, it’s all pitches and pitch concepts; I wouldn’t classify such things as rumour. There are real people in actual show-making careers who have expressed interest in creating these things. That doesn’t mean any of them are ever made, nor does it inherently suggest anything of the sort, but it’s a far cry from, like, if somebody on YouTube starts claiming that Star Trek: Sisko Returns is happening or whatever.

 

[eschaton]

So, first CBS/Paramount originally wanted to end the series after season 4, but the producers fought with them to get a fifth season. Then, CBS/Paramount shifted gears again and wanted to have a two hour series finale movie instead of a 10-episode fifth/final season, and the producers had to fight again to get 6 episodes instead?

This does not sound like CBS/Paramount wants to make Star Trek: Year One. Or a President Archer show. Or Star Trek Legacy. Or any of the other crap we've heard rumors about. This sounds like CBS/Paramount wants to end this show as quickly as humanly possible and cease making more.

I think that CBS/Paramount wanted to "clear the deck" to allow Skydance as much flexibility as possible regarding what was done with Star Trek.

David Ellison is Trek fan, and since the merger, has said a lot of affirmative things about more Trek in the future, both on TV and in theatres. Whether this means building off of the Kurtzman era or a soft reboot remains to be seen.

 

[Jayson1]

That's the question. On one hand it makes sense to me to move on from Kurtzman and have Ellison bring in his own people to run Trek. But I also think I heard he and Kurtzman get along so who knows what might happen. I do think getting a Trek movie in the theater though is going to be important to them. Maybe it's that Early Federation idea or maybe they bring back the Kelvinverse crew one more time, I don't know. I am just kind of shocked they haven't even considered rebooting TNG. I mean it kind of makes sense even if it's something I don't want them to do.

 

[Danja]

That's the question. On one hand it makes sense to me to move on from Kurtzman and have Ellison bring in his own people to run Trek. But I also think I heard he and Kurtzman get along so who knows what might happen.

Ellison already has his person in charge of Trek: Alex Kurtzman.

 

[Noname Given]

So, first CBS/Paramount originally wanted to end the series after season 4, but the producers fought with them to get a fifth season. Then, CBS/Paramount shifted gears again and wanted to have a two hour series finale movie instead of a 10-episode fifth/final season, and the producers had to fight again to get 6 episodes instead?

This does not sound like CBS/Paramount wants to make Star Trek: Year One. Or a President Archer show. Or Star Trek Legacy. Or any of the other crap we've heard rumors about. This sounds like CBS/Paramount wants to end this show as quickly as humanly possible and cease making more.

You misread the article - No one 'fought' to get a two hour streaming film - SNW S4 would be the last Season yes, but the series would conclude with a 2 hour Streaming film. The producers said they didn't think they could do a satisfactory series wrap up with a 2 hour film, and then fought for a 5th season - and in the end got 6 episodes for a 5th season; but yeah, it appears the 2 Hour streaming film was always planned post S4.

 

[Dukhat]

You misread the article - No one 'fought' to get a two hour streaming film...

That's not what I said.

 

[Noname Given]

That's not what I said.

Okay, but you did say:

So, first CBS/Paramount originally wanted to end the series after season 4, but the producers fought with them to get a fifth season. Then, CBS/Paramount shifted gears again and wanted to have a two hour series finale movie instead of a 10-episode fifth/final season, and the producers had to fight again to get 6 episodes instead?

They didn't 'shift gears' - a 2 hour movie was always planned after the end of SNW S4.

 

[Jayson1]

Ellison already has his person in charge of Trek: Alex Kurtzman.

But he didn't hire him. He might like Kurtzman and want to keep him but he is also inheriting him from the previous owners.

 

[Dukhat]

They didn't 'shift gears' - a 2 hour movie was always planned after the end of SNW S4.

Ok, I stand corrected. But that was hardly my point. My point was that this does not bode well for future CBS/P+ Trek productions. I guess we'll know better in February.

 

[Danja]

But he didn't hire him. He might like Kurtzman and want to keep him but he is also inheriting him from the previous owners.

He's keeping CBS CEO George Cheeks.

Who's to say he won't keep Kurtzman too?

 

[Jayson1]

He might do it. I think he might actually be happy with lots of what he has acquired. Taylor Sheridan being a big one. He also has the rights to Mission Impossible,Top Gun and Transformers. He already got ride of Colbert and all the money wasted on carrying a dead format show. People have liked most of what Kurtzman has done that wasn't Section 31 and Discovery. He can bring in a big movie director for a Trek movie. Let Kurtzman just do the tv stuff.

Or he could clean house with most of their talent except Taylor Sheridan and I assume a strong desire to work with Tom Cruise and bring in all brand new people.