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Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

valden said:
I first thought it was the actual critics choice awards, but this is a lesser award. the super awards???

SNW did not get nominated for the actual critics choice that was held this year, that is the more prestigious one. Andor is getting nominated for the actual critics choice, PGA, Golden Globes and likely Emmy and with the Mandoloran coming back for season 3 things will get tight,

SNW would need to step up for season 2 in terms of quality, casting, writing and acting, however I doubt a lot will happen and i think season 2 of SNW is where we will begin to see real criticism of the show began to start, Very much like Star Trek Discovery season 1-season 2.
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It's not a "lesser" award, it's the same organization.

At least they realized genre fiction is not judged fairly and created this award.
 
Quantum21 said:
It's not a "lesser" award, it's the same organization.

At least they realized genre fiction is not judged fairly and created this award.
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Its a lesser award. it should have gotten an actual critics choice not critics super. if The Batman and Andor can get both, then SNW should be doing the same. The critrics , especially the prestigious ones likley see SNW as CW kind of good not Game of Thrones of Better Call Saul kind of good. I think it is only The Mandalorian they see that way,

anyway season 2 will be the real test for the show, season 1 was been judged by the standard star trek discovery and picard set which was low, however season 2 will be held to a much higher standard so i will expect a harsher critic if they stick to their CW good level writing as they did in season 1.
 
valden said:
Its a lesser award. it should have gotten an actual critics choice not critics super. if The Batman and Andor can get both, then SNW should be doing the same. The critrics , especially the prestigious ones likley see SNW as CW kind of good not Game of Thrones of Better Call Saul kind of good. I think it is only The Mandalorian they see that way,

anyway season 2 will be the real test for the show, season 1 was been judged by the standard star trek discovery and picard set which was low, however season 2 will be held to a much higher standard so i will expect a harsher critic if they stick to their CW good level writing as they did in season 1.
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When did any previous Star Trek series get any high awards?
 
Tuskin38 said:
When did any previous Star Trek series get any high awards?
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TNG did.

TNG was also a break out series and was very popular in the 90s. Maybe the only time trek was more popuplar than star wars. SNW is a show that has little presence on TV and streaming.

There were not too many awards when TOS was airing, however TOS is an iconic legendary show and on many best tv series ever created and a lot of the actors like William Shatner, Nichelle Nichols, George Takei and ofcourse Nimoy became iconic in Hollywood and media.
 
valden said:
TNG did.

TNG was also a break out series and was very popular in the 90s. Maybe the only time trek was more popuplar than star wars. SNW is a show that has little presence on TV and streaming.

There were not too many awards when TOS was airing, however TOS is an iconic legendary show and on many best tv series ever created and a lot of the actors like William Shatner, Nichelle Nichols, George Takei and ofcourse Nimoy became iconic in Hollywood and media.
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TNG was nominated for best dramatic series in 1994 (which goes to show that The Academy of Television members weren't really watching the series because season 7 was probably the worst season of TNG since season 1 overall.)

It didn't win.
 
Sometimes if a good show has a bad final season and hasn’t been nominated before sometimes it’ll get a nomination to make up for not nominating it before.
 
Commander Troi said:
To be fair, they weren't meaningless to the people who won them.
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And I did not mean to diminish the accomplishments of those who win and have won those awards. Nonetheless, the perception still exists that the technical categories are less prestigious than the frontline categories like best actor/actress and the like. Indeed, often times with the Emmys and Oscars the technical categories are often awarded at a separate ceremony which does not get televised. An argument can be made the technical categories are a lesser tier, and thus saying a show has won an Emmy in the technical categories is not the same thing as the show winning one of the "higher awards" as it was put.
 
valden said:
TNG did.

TNG was also a break out series and was very popular in the 90s. Maybe the only time trek was more popuplar than star wars. SNW is a show that has little presence on TV and streaming.

There were not too many awards when TOS was airing, however TOS is an iconic legendary show and on many best tv series ever created and a lot of the actors like William Shatner, Nichelle Nichols, George Takei and ofcourse Nimoy became iconic in Hollywood and media.
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TOS got more major Emmy nominations than TNG - two Best Dramatic Series to TNG's one, and three Best Supporting Actor to TNG's zero.

And really, this is yet another example of holding modern Trek to a standard which is not applied to past Trek. Trek got one single major Emmy or Golden Globe nomination from 25 seasons in the Berman era. Other genre shows, like Quantum Leap and The X Files, got plenty.
 
valden said:
Its a lesser award. it should have gotten an actual critics choice not critics super. if The Batman and Andor can get both, then SNW should be doing the same. The critrics , especially the prestigious ones likley see SNW as CW kind of good not Game of Thrones of Better Call Saul kind of good. I think it is only The Mandalorian they see that way,

anyway season 2 will be the real test for the show, season 1 was been judged by the standard star trek discovery and picard set which was low, however season 2 will be held to a much higher standard so i will expect a harsher critic if they stick to their CW good level writing as they did in season 1.
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Nope.. But keep thinking it.
 
So, with the proviso that I'm categorizing cinematography, music, and film editing as creative awards rather than technical awards (while I'm counting things like art direction, makeup, costuming, etc as technical awards), and with the proviso that I'm generally restricting this to Emmys, Golden Globes, and Oscars but I'm also including some particularly prestigious other awards such as Peabodys, NAACP Image Awards, and Annies, the mainstream creative awards or nominations Star Trek has received are:
  • Star Trek: The Original Series
    • 1967 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Dramatic Series - nominee
    • 1967 Primetime Emmy Award for Individual Achievements in Cinematography - Photographic Special Effects - nominee
    • 1967 Primetime Emmy Award for Individual Achievements in Film and Sound Editing - nominee
    • 1968 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Dramatic Series - nominee
    • 1968 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Achievement in Film Editing ("The Doomsday Machine") - nominee
    • 1969 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Achievement in Film Editing ("Assignment: Earth") - nominee
    • Leonard Nimoy
      • 1967 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Drama Series (Mr. Spock) - nominee
      • 1968 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Drama Series (Mr. Spock) - nominee
      • 1969 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Continued Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Series (Mr. Spock) - nominee
  • Star Trek: The Animated Series
    • 1974 Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Entertainment - Children's Series - nominee
    • 1975 Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Entertainment - Children's Series - winner
  • Star Trek: The Next Generation
    • 1994 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Dramatic Series - nominee
    • 1988 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Cinematography for a Series ("The Big Goodbye") - nominee
    • 1988 George Foster Peabody Award ("The Big Goodbye") - winner
    • 1990 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Editing for a Series – Single Camera Production ("Deja Q") - nominee
    • 1991 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Cinematography for a Series ("Family") - nominee
    • Dennis McCarthy
      • 1989 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Achievement in Music Composition for a Series ("The Child") - nominee
      • 1990 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Achievement in Music Composition for a Series ("Yesterday's Enterprise") - nominee
      • 1991 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Achievement in Music Composition for a Series ("Half a Life") - nominee
      • 1994 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Music Composition for a Series ("All Good Things...") - nominee
  • Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
    • 1997 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Cinematography for a Series (Jonathan West, "Apocalypse Rising") - nominee
    • Dennis McCarthy
      • 1993 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Main Title Theme Music - winner
    • Jay Chattaway
      • 1996 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Music Composition for a Series ("Our Man Bashir") -nominee
      • 1998 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Music Direction ("His Way") - nominee
  • Star Trek: Voyager
    • 1995 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Main Title Theme Music (Jerry Goldsmith) - winner
    • 1995 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Cinematography for a Series (Marvin Rush, "Heroes and Demons") - nominee
    • 2001 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Music Composition For A Series (Dennis McCarthy, "Workforce, Part II") - nominee
    • Jay Chattaway
      • 1995 Primetime Emmy Awards for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Music Composition for a Series ("Caretaker" and "Heroes and Demons") - nominee
      • 2000 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Music Composition for a Series ("Spirit Folk") - nominee
      • 2001 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Music Composition For A Series ("Endgame") - winner
  • Star Trek: Enterprise
    • 2003 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Music Composition For A Series (Dramatic Underscore) [Dennis McCarthy, "The Expanse"] - nominee
    • 2004 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Music Composition For A Series (Dramatic Underscore) [Velton Ray Bunch, "Similitude"] - winner
  • Star Trek: Discovery
    • 2017 George Foster Peabody Award - nominee
  • Star Trek: Short Treks
    • 2020 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Short Form Comedy or Drama Series - nominee
  • Star Trek: Picard
    • 2021 NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Directing in a Drama Series (Hanelle Culpepper, "Remembrance") - winner
  • Star Trek: Lower Decks
    • 2021 Annie Award for Outstanding Achievement for Music in an Animated Television/Media Production (Chris Westlake, "Crisis Point") - nominee
    • 2021 NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Animated Series - nominee
    • 2021 NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Character Voice-Over Performance (Television) [Dawnn Lewis] - nominee
    • 2023 Annie Award for Editorial in an Animated Television/Broadcast Production (Andy Maxwell, Zach Lamplugh, Brandon Brocker, and Paul Mazzotta for "The Stars At Night") - nominee
  • Star Trek: Prodigy
    • 2022 Children's and Family Emmy Award for Outstanding Animated Series - nominee
  • Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
    • Nothing mainstream except a Primetime Emmy nomination for sound editing
  • Star Trek: The Motion Picture
    • 1980 Academy Award for Best Original Score (Jerry Goldsmith) - nominee
    • 1980 Golden Globe Award for Best Original Score (Jerry Goldsmith) - nominee
  • Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
    • 1987 Academy Award for Best Original Score (Leonard Rosenman) - nominee
    • 1987 Academy Award for Best Cinematography (Donald Peterman) - nominee
  • Star Trek: First Contact
    • NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Motion Picture (Alfre Woodard) - nominee
  • Star Trek (2009)
    • 2010 Grammy Award for Best Score Soundtrack for Visual Media (Michael Giacchino) - nominee
If you restrict yourself to the most basic categories -- Best Thing, Best Directing, Best Acting (Lead or Supporting), or Best Writing -- in the Emmys, Oscars, or Golden Globes, then the only major mainstream award nominations Star Trek has ever received (that I could find) are:
  • Star Trek: The Original Series
    • 1967 and 1968 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Dramatic Series - nominee
    • 1967, 1968, and 1969 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Drama Series (Leonard Nimoy, "Mr. Spock") - nominee
  • Star Trek: The Animated Series
    • 1974 Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Entertainment - Children's Series - nominee
    • 1975 Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Entertainment - Children's Series - winner
  • Star Trek: The Next Generation
    • 1994 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Dramatic Series - nominee
  • Star Trek: Short Treks
    • 2020 Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Short Form Comedy or Drama Series - nominee
  • Star Trek: Prodigy
    • 2022 Children's and Family Emmy Award for Outstanding Animated Series - nominee
Star Trek has never been nominated for an Emmy, Oscar, or Golden Globe for directing or writing. Leonard Nimoy remains the only Star Trek actor I could find to be nominated for his work on Star Trek.
 
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