Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Noname Given]

I look forward to @valden twisting this into an attempted win for him and his continued issues with Peck and Bush.

At this point it's just better not to respond to him. That'll probably make him try something else to get attention.

I mean it's not like he posts anything factual that's honestly worth reading or responding to, and yeah I'm guilty in the past of taking the troll bait from him, but no longer.

 

[Campe]

Fair.

 

[The Wormhole]

SNW is not in the league of GOT best seasons, but TNG is.

Wut?

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

I look forward to @valden twisting this into an attempted win for him and his continued issues with Peck and Bush.

For some, truth exists only in highly selective statistical charts, and nothing else will do.

 

[Tuskin38]

For some, truth exists only in highly selective statistical charts, and nothing else will do.

Different person.

 

[valden]

I look forward to @valden twisting this into an attempted win for him and his continued issues with Peck and Bush.

I don't have to twist anything. Saturn awards are fine for shows like snw and discovery. They are no emmys. They are even lesser than mtv awards. Peck bush and Mount are fine getting nominated as those 3 seem to be pushed the most as the faces of the show even by paramount plus. I think this even got very noticeable to the point fans were asking what was going on with Rebecca una and why she was so underused in season 1. I will say in season 1 Bush is deftinely the led actress. Saturns are awards that can still give a chance to average and mediocre shows hence discovery and many cw shows getting nominated. Let snw get a WGA nomination Award like wandavision did and then we will talk.

 

[valden]

Different person.

There are no charts since paramount plus will not release viewsship numbers

 

[MrShinzoff]

I'm sorry if this has been covered in the thread but is it the case that season 1 was supposed to have taken place over the period of around 3 years? In Ep 1, Pike tells Spock his accident is "almost a decade away". In Ep 10, future Pike refers to the accident as being "...seven years from now...". I was thinking Ep 1 - Ep 9 might have been around a year and there was a larger gap between Ep 9 - Ep 10. Also, Pike's, "almost a decade away", might actually be 9 or 8 years - but my initial impression from that episode was that they had around 10 years.

 

[Donald G]

I'm sorry if this has been covered in the thread but is it the case that season 1 was supposed to have taken place over the period of around 3 years? In Ep 1, Pike tells Spock his accident is "almost a decade away". In Ep 10, future Pike refers to the accident as being "...seven years from now...". I was thinking Ep 1 - Ep 9 might have been around a year and there was a larger gap between Ep 9 - Ep 10. Also, Pike's, "almost a decade away", might actually be 9 or 8 years - but my initial impression from that episode was that they had around 10 years.

No, it's writers being chronologically sloppy when writing dialogue about the accident, and members of the production team being imprecise about the nuances of the timing of the accident in interviews and such. Uhura surely did not spend three years of a 4 year Starfleet Academy curriculum aboard the Enterprise.

Season One of Discovery began in May 2256, then picked up six months later for episode three, and continued for several months into 2257.

Season Two of Discovery began sometime in the middle of 2257, and arguably continued into 2258

Season One of SNW is set ca. 2259. Pike's Kelvin-styled stardated log entry toward the end of the premiere episode would seem to put the beginning of SNW in February, 2259. The SNW finale reinforces previous Trek chronology Pike's that accident (and " Balance of Terror") take place in 2266.

 

[The Wormhole]

I'm sorry if this has been covered in the thread but is it the case that season 1 was supposed to have taken place over the period of around 3 years? In Ep 1, Pike tells Spock his accident is "almost a decade away". In Ep 10, future Pike refers to the accident as being "...seven years from now...". I was thinking Ep 1 - Ep 9 might have been around a year and there was a larger gap between Ep 9 - Ep 10. Also, Pike's, "almost a decade away", might actually be 9 or 8 years - but my initial impression from that episode was that they had around 10 years.

"Seven years" is the "almost a decade away." But if you insist on being 1000% literal, then the date provided onscreen in episode 1 is 2259, which is seven years away from 2266, when we know canonically from TOS is when Pike's accident happens.

 

[Tuskin38]

Season One of Discovery began in May 2256, then picked up six months later for episode three, and continued for several months into 2257.

Don't forget the 9 month time skip when they returned from the Mirror Universe.

No, it's writers being chronologically sloppy when writing dialogue about the accident

It's not sloppy, people talk like that.

7 years is 'almost a decade' away.

 

[Donald G]

Don't forget the 9 month time skip when they returned from the Mirror Universe.


It's not sloppy, people talk like that.

7 years is 'almost a decade' away.

I did not forget the nine month time skip when they returned from the Mirror Universe. I just did not specifically mention it, subsuming it into the "several months" DISCO Season One extended into 2257. "Several" does not have a precise numerical definition.

I have made the point myself many times in this forum that "seven years" is "almost a decade" if you round up to the nearest ten. And, yes, people do, in fact, speak and write sloppily all the time. I certainly do, and you can credibly argue that I just have right here in this post.

 

[Skywalker]

This is the same mentality that leads to people thinking that, when a character says an event took place "two hundred years ago," it means that event actually took place exactly two hundred years before the episode.

 

[Tuskin38]

I did not forget the nine month time skip when they returned from the Mirror Universe. I just did not specifically mention it, subsuming it into the "several months" DISCO Season One extended into 2257. "Several" does not have a precise numerical definition.

I have made the point myself many times in this forum that "seven years" is "almost a decade" if you round up to the nearest ten. And, yes, people do, in fact, speak and write sloppily all the time. I certainly do, and you can credibly argue that I just have right here in this post.

I think I may have misunderstood your previous post, my apologies.

 

[The Wormhole]

This is the same mentality that leads to people thinking that, when a character says an event took place "two hundred years ago," it means that event actually took place exactly two hundred years before the episode.

That's basically what the old Star Trek Chronology was built upon.

 

[fireproof78]

This is the same mentality that leads to people thinking that, when a character says an event took place "two hundred years ago," it means that event actually took place exactly two hundred years before the episode.

Strict literalism is what keeps Star Trek in a box.

 

[N-121973]

That's basically what the old Star Trek Chronology was built upon.

Am I the only one who longs for another edition of the 'Star Trek: Chronology of the Future' by the Okudas?.

 

[The Wormhole]

Am I the only one who longs for another edition of the 'Star Trek: Chronology of the Future' by the Okudas?.

It would definitely be inconvenient to release one now when multiple shows are in production. The new Chronology would be outdated as soon as it was released.

 

[Campe]

While far from perfect, Memory Alpha is kind of taking that and the Encyclopedia’s spot these days and is always updated (leading to much of its imperfection.)

 

[The Wormhole]

Indeed, and given how massive and expensive the latest edition of the Encyclopedia released for the 50th anniversary in 2016 was, I imagine a new Chronology would be equally as grand, both in scope and price. Not to mention, I would think a new Chronology today would likely also have subsections dedicated to the Kelvin Timeline and probably even the Mirror Universe. I doubt many would want to spend money on this when they have all the information available for free on Memory Alpha anyway.