Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[valkyrie013]

No, you’re open to being perceived as racist because you use expressions like “diversity hire”.

What politically approved idiom am I suppose to use?
If I was complaining that a black man on my star trek.. like if back when If I complained about Sisko being a black lead then yeah, that would be racist, and I should be shown the door on a rail.. But I'm not.
I'm complaining that some random guy in SNW hiring decided to change the race of an already established character. Not the actor ( whom I like btw, he was good on Arrow) and not the fact that he's a black man playing an admiral, already said, if they used a different name, I'd be like, cool, I like that actor, hope he has some more scenes latter in the series ( which I do hope for him to have more time in the series)
What some random people on the internet "Perceive" as racist has been diluted and overbroad a meaning as of late.

anyways, Ya'll enjoy your night, and hope that your looking forward to Thursday as I am!

 

[Jedi Marso]

There's also that episode referencing a millionaire which I hope to God remains non-canon.

Carter Winston?

John M. Ford made excellent use of that character in The Final Reflection.

 

[Campe]

Remember when a certain modern TV series brought back a popular bounty hunter many thought died in a movie made 40 years ago? And then made him nicer and more compromising and less of a murderous death machine? He even had a cuddly pet dungeon beast?

I generally just thought it was silly.

Back to the topic…

Let’s remember for a second that TAS was a fairly inexpensive show. Now, it’s been awhile since I’ve watched it, but I generally do not remember a lot of persons of color in the show. And frankly, many of the background and guest characters looked fairly simple. Could it be possible that the reason Robert April was Caucasian in his appearance in TAS was budgetary? He also was a one off character and wasn’t once mentioned in Trek again until 2017. His appearance in TAS is fairly non significant. But people are making a huge deal out of it. And most haven’t seen a full episode yet. This nerd rage actually reminds me of Star Trek Beyond making Sulu not hetero. Rage for the sake of doing something different. That rage too faded.

Im also going to guess that not only does April not have light skin, but he also doesn’t sound a thing like Jimmy Doohan. I mean, never mind the fact that 95% of the male guest characters sounded like Doohan, it too is a huge change from the established character! RAGE!



kidding.

 

[Tuskin38]

Im also going to guess that not only does April not have light skin, but he also doesn’t sound a thing like Jimmy Doohan. I mean, never mind the fact that 95% of the male guest characters sounded like Doohan, it too is a huge changed from the established character! RAGE!

If he doesn't have a fake British accent I'm out. Change his skin colour, change is age, but don't change his accent.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Could it be possible that the reason Robert April was Caucasian in his appearance in TAS was budgetary?

More like "white" was a default back then. Though I seem to recall a few black crewmen in TAS.

 

[Campe]

More like "white" was a default back then. Though I seem to recall a few black crewmen in TAS.

Like I’ve said, it’s been awhile. A fair distinction though.

 

[Belz...]

What politically approved idiom am I suppose to use?

I don't know but "politically approved" sounds like another one you should avoid.

If I was complaining that a black man on my star trek.. like if back when If I complained about Sisko being a black lead then yeah, that would be racist, and I should be shown the door on a rail.. But I'm not.

Yes, it's more subtle that way.

 

[Jedi Marso]

When discussing the age of Robert April vis-a-vis the actor playing him, remember that this is the 23rd Century, where 65 might be the new 40, or 50, or whatever. Bones lives to a ripe old age, eh? Old enough to tour the Enterprise-D.

 

[cooleddie74]

And McCoy was just 66 in TUC. So he wasn't exactly ancient even in the TOS Movie Era even though DeForest Kelley was noticeably older compared to TOS and TMP.

 

[NCC-73515]

I'll just leave this here..

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Animated_Series#Production_inconsistencies

How would you explain going from warp 26 being possible to warp 10 being the upper limit?

Excelsior's transwarp drive led to a new scale.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'll just leave this here..

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Animated_Series#Production_inconsistencies


Excelsior's transwarp drive led to a new scale.

That uniform fabricator had a few bugs,

 

[cooleddie74]

It's canon. April gets a hair transplant before 2270.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's canon. April gets a hair transplant before 2270.

And shaves.

 

[gvn2fly]

Do people really care that much about the race of a character that was in one bad episode of a cartoon that most haven't even considered canon or do they just want to complain about something?

 

[cooleddie74]

And shaves.

Well, stubble stopped being sexy in 2239. Thanks a lot, Commodore [redacted].

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well, stubble stopped being sexy in 2239. Thanks a lot, Commodore [redacted].

 

[fireproof78]

Do people really care that much about the race of a character that was in one bad episode of a cartoon that most haven't even considered canon or do they just want to complain about something?

The second one.

Somehow it indicates love for a franchise or something.

 

[DaveyNY]

What politically approved idiom am I suppose to use?
If I was complaining that a black man on my star trek.. like if back when If I complained about Sisko being a black lead then yeah, that would be racist, and I should be shown the door on a rail.. But I'm not.
I'm complaining that some random guy in SNW hiring decided to change the race of an already established character. Not the actor ( whom I like btw, he was good on Arrow) and not the fact that he's a black man playing an admiral, already said, if they used a different name, I'd be like, cool, I like that actor, hope he has some more scenes latter in the series ( which I do hope for him to have more time in the series)
What some random people on the internet "Perceive" as racist has been diluted and overbroad a meaning as of late.

anyways, Ya'll enjoy your night, and hope that your looking forward to Thursday as I am!

There's no way for you to climb out of that hole you've dug for yourself at this point.
Stop making it worse, toss the shovel away and move on.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Carter Winston?

John M. Ford made excellent use of that character in The Final Reflection.

One of my all-time favorite Trek books. Ford’s How Much For Just The Planet was also excellent. I still mourn his premature passing.

 

[DaveyNY]

Sooo...,
In about 27 hours most of us will actually be able to discuss the entire episode.