Good job, John.
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He said he turned down the chance to audition for a minor supporting role in SNW, he didn't say it was to play Phlox. I don't think he'd have to audition to play Phlox again.
He does say that he'll probably never play Phlox again in live action because of the makeup, he'd happily voice the character though.
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It sounds like you are making excuses for Paramount and their lack of advertising for SNW. Again, you didn't address the FACT that they advertised Discovery AND Picard half a year ago BEFORE the seasons premiered...you and others here are intentionally avoiding this part....why? Why are you sounding like a Paramount PR rep rather than give an honest opinion and answer to my line of questioning when it comes to uneven advertising? SNW has had nearly zero advertising for it....PERIOD! The only half assed ads we DO get from it is those Paramount Mountain ads with a couple of the actors mingling with other characters from Paramount shows...THAT'S IT! If this were another Abrams movie, and they pulled the same crap, you'd be just as outraged as I, because you know advertising is NECESSARY to spread the word about this show. They aren't doing that. This is like Star Trek Beyond all over again, except this time its for a show and not a movie. There is no justifiable excuse to not have an advertisment for the show now. None.
Yes, there is. They did a special streaming special which highlighted all of the crew including new crew. There are magazine specials forthcoming.
I will not be outraged because advertising is a delicate balance. Strike too soon and people will loose interest. Strike too late and people will not know. The window for marketing is a narrow one and saying there is zero advertising is just flat out wrong.
Its just pointless debating you people when you move the goal posts to justify Paramount's reasoning after the fact they advertised the other shows 6 months before they premiered and yet you don't state that THAT was 'too soon' or 'too late'. When, exactly SHOULD a teaser for a show be released....in YOUR opinion? Was Picard and Discovery season 2 advertising too soon 6 months ago? I mean, if you want to talk about timing, justify why that timing was perfect compared to the advertising timing for SNW? Those snippets are not the same thing as a full fledged teaser trailer. So again, YOUR argument is really lacking here, especially your weak point on 'timing'.
Never, honestly. But since they have put out elements of marketing I will say they are marketing it. Just not to the liking of all.
Yes.
So then why didn't you state that before?
Because I have very little stock in "teaser trailers" of a show that the people here already know about. It's a ridiculous assumption that Paramount is burying this show when they had a streaming special, and when they showcased some elements to the press and are in the middle of advertising another show.
I'm no marketing expert but I know this-you get your biggest bang for your buck shortly after the advertisement goes live. Going live with SNW will get subscriptions now when the show isn't available yet. That's poor marketing. Timing it so that people know it's coming and then up the hype when it is about to go live is good marketing.
And the biggest thing of all? We're still talking about ! So, they are getting free marketing from the lack of marketing.
I'm going to be willing to wager that Paramount has looked at the numbers and decided that they need to time it better with so many Star Trek shows going on, vs. just Discovery or Discovery and Picard. It requires balance.
That's why the Cryptic devs no longer advertise they have show actors coming to Star Trek Online before they're actually live in the game. Because people end up missing the fact they're not actually in yet and come to the game expecting them.
Trailers are not aimed at "the people here who already know all about" the show. Shockingly enough, most of the people who will eventually watch this show have never been near a Star Trek forum on the Internet.
All the more reason that timing is critical.
Space Beatniks.
His drunken ADHD behavior?
Honestly, that's empty rhetoric. How much do you actually know about any of this?
Helped organize ads for a few years and timing product distribution. So, marginal.Honestly, that's empty rhetoric. How much do you actually know about any of this?
His "don't you want a Denobulan in your new show" behavior
The episode we always needed but never got. The beatnik prequel to the hippie episode of TOS.
What am I looking at? Anson Mount and?
