1. TOS
2. DSC
3. TMP
4. ST09
2. DSC
3. TMP
4. ST09
Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread
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1. TOS-main series
2. DSC
3. TMP
4. Kelvin-ST 09.
2. DSC
3. TMP
4. Kelvin-ST 09.
The more toned-down nacelles are a plus to me. They sit and lean farther back on the stardrive section so there's more of a gap between the Bussard collectors and the saucer section so that's a little annoying but on balance the 1701-A is just easier on my eyes.
I thought the one thing that's clear is that things are not overwritten. Have you seen the inside of the E&Dprise? It was also the wrong Enterprise refit, IIRC (the A was not in SFS). A recast is necessary for actors who don't make sense age-wise anymore or aren't available. No recast of sets, props, or ships is necessary.
see, that explains everything. some don't see things, others do, some pay more attention to things that others don't even notice, and then the non-seeing tell the seeing how wrong they are XD
why wouldn't the refit as shown and addressed in TMP have major replacements? who disputes that?
And some people can have an attention to detail and still accept a close enough updated redesign of a production asset as representing the same starship in a different production because their suspension of disbelief doesn't hinge on it looking exactly like its original design with HD textures, and consequently, they don't require an in-universe explanation for every redesign, continuity or VFX error, even if they acknowledge them.
I do like the minor changes they made to the Kelvin 1701 for Beyond with the slimmer neck and nacelle struts. Made it feel more like the TOS ship.
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I don't dislike any of them, but the Enterprise in TMP, to me, isn't just an Enterprise but The Enterprise. That's the ship that deserves the five (hundred) minute tour it received.
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I don't dislike any of them, but the Enterprise in TMP, to me, isn't just an Enterprise but The Enterprise. That's the ship that deserves the five (hundred) minute tour it received.
1. TOS
2. TMP/Refit
3. Discoprise
4. Kelvin
5. Kelvin - A
I disagree. I think the design looked just fine when it was used in its two appearances on Enterprise. First as the Defiant in the mirror verse 2-parter and then in the Enterprise montage at the end of the finale. Like that photoshop shows, if you do the lighting, etc…to match the darkness of Discovery it would fit in just fine.
and then of course TOS-R and Trials and Tribbleations.
of course, because they clearly took design cues from the refit and retroactively added them to the original design. Stuff like the swept back pylons and external docking hatches.
Outside of the super huge landing pad for the shuttle bay I like the Kurtzman-Trek Enterprise design. To me it’s like the “new” Dodge Charger/Challenger. Where they took the design of the car from the 60’s/70’s and updated for the 2010/20’s with bigger wheels, slightly rounded lines, etc… They are very good looking updates to the original designs. But you aren’t going to go back to a movie like Bullitt, insert a modern Charger to that classic car chase and say that’s how the car always looked.
2. TMP/Refit
3. Discoprise
4. Kelvin
5. Kelvin - A
I disagree. I think the design looked just fine when it was used in its two appearances on Enterprise. First as the Defiant in the mirror verse 2-parter and then in the Enterprise montage at the end of the finale. Like that photoshop shows, if you do the lighting, etc…to match the darkness of Discovery it would fit in just fine.
and then of course TOS-R and Trials and Tribbleations.
of course, because they clearly took design cues from the refit and retroactively added them to the original design. Stuff like the swept back pylons and external docking hatches.
Outside of the super huge landing pad for the shuttle bay I like the Kurtzman-Trek Enterprise design. To me it’s like the “new” Dodge Charger/Challenger. Where they took the design of the car from the 60’s/70’s and updated for the 2010/20’s with bigger wheels, slightly rounded lines, etc… They are very good looking updates to the original designs. But you aren’t going to go back to a movie like Bullitt, insert a modern Charger to that classic car chase and say that’s how the car always looked.
Glorified fan service, nothing more.
SNW is an entire TV series, not a single episode.
It is if you want new fans to take it seriously.
They’re not making this show for old fans, they’re also making it for the new fans that came on with DSC, and to attract new fans.
Well Star Trek isn’t real life. That isn’t comparable.
But I doubt they’ll do another TOS-R and replace the enterprise
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I see the DSC/SNW Enterprise as what it is: something designed to retroactively fit between the NX-01 and the TMP Refit while still looking like it can fit in on DSC.
Is it my favorite version of the ship? No.
But do I dislike it? No.
So, at least for me as a viewer, they accomplished what they set out to do.
If you want to get into something I don't like, it's the SNW Uniforms. But I don't feel too strongly about it.
And yeah, they're not going to do another TOS-R. At least not anytime soon. They haven't even upgraded DS9 and VOY yet. I think when they upgraded TOS to HD, they considered it a box ticked off and moved on. Maybe one day they'll want to have a 4K or 8K TOS but, as of 2022, regular HD is still considered "good enough". By the time that changes, Alex Kurtzman will be long gone.
Is it my favorite version of the ship? No.
But do I dislike it? No.
So, at least for me as a viewer, they accomplished what they set out to do.
If you want to get into something I don't like, it's the SNW Uniforms. But I don't feel too strongly about it.
And yeah, they're not going to do another TOS-R. At least not anytime soon. They haven't even upgraded DS9 and VOY yet. I think when they upgraded TOS to HD, they considered it a box ticked off and moved on. Maybe one day they'll want to have a 4K or 8K TOS but, as of 2022, regular HD is still considered "good enough". By the time that changes, Alex Kurtzman will be long gone.
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What exactly makes this one difficult to take seriously, what about it would repel new fans, and why would your friends dismiss this?
Frankly with that lighting she's gorgeous. To each their own and Your Mileage Will Vary and what have you but, damn, that's the sleekest she's ever looked in that configuration.
Yeah, give it the DSC starship metallic sheen but other than that and lighting her chiller bars on the insides of her warp nacelles she's good the way Matt designed her.
To glance at it briefly, the struts don't look "right" to my eyes, i.e. kind of plastic looking. So, I think a metallic sheen might need necessary.
Overall, I think it could work, but I can see the rejection of just being too fake looking. Which, honestly has nothing to do with the producers and everything to do with audience perception. You can't argue the audience in to perceiving it differently. My wife rejected Trek for decades because it looked plastic and cheap.
Overall, I think it could work, but I can see the rejection of just being too fake looking. Which, honestly has nothing to do with the producers and everything to do with audience perception. You can't argue the audience in to perceiving it differently. My wife rejected Trek for decades because it looked plastic and cheap.
Teaser soon. One was just shown at a ViacomCBS (now rebranded as Paramount Global) thing
Some promo images
https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1493712227169456134
https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1493711644287029249
Gia Sandhu to play T'Pring.
https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1493714492362043395
This was originally found on IMDB back in 2021. This is like the third new Trek casting leaked on IMDB. I believe there were 2 for Picard.
Some promo images
https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1493712227169456134
https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1493711644287029249
Gia Sandhu to play T'Pring.
https://twitter.com/TheTrekCentral/status/1493714492362043395
This was originally found on IMDB back in 2021. This is like the third new Trek casting leaked on IMDB. I believe there were 2 for Picard.
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That's our first look at the new corridor set right? They look similar to the redressed Discovery corridors, but I miss all the red.
