Yeah no idea which is which. I like the upper one better though, but I wouldn't care either way really.
But I'm generally not that interested in the outside of ships.
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Yeah no idea which is which. I like the upper one better though, but I wouldn't care either way really.
But I'm generally not that interested in the outside of ships.
I don't know man, it must be at least a bit close considering I couldn't tell which one was the hack fraud Discovery take and which was the faithful amazing edited version.
Except you have both Lower Decks and Prodigy showing the original TOS version.
It's just however the showrunner/artists are feeling that day.
It has aged as well as any other 60s sci-fi designs. That is, it hasn't.
Don't take this as me hating the design. It's my third favourite Connie design. It just doesn't work for a modern 21st century TV series.
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Seriously, I wouldn't even know the differences unless I knew what to look for. I tried to play the same game with my dad who only has a basic knowledge of Star Trek back in 2009 and I wasn't even subtle about it, I showed him a picture of the TOS Enterprise alongside the Kelvin movie version, and he just shrugged and said they looked the same.
Okay, that might be hyperbole, I admit. But it kind of feels like that the differences between Jefferies' original design and Eaves' redesign are blown way out of proportion. The general shape is the same with some different details that aren't even apparent for most viewers if you don't take the time to try and superimpose the two models on each other. I definitely didn't notice the engineering hull having a different shape while I was watching the episodes. Is it such an irreconcilable problem that the neck is shorter and the pylons are different, especially if it's a depiction in the late 2250s as opposed to the mid-to-late 2260s, during which it could've had a refit? Even canon purist extraordinaire Bernd Schneider had to admit that the TOS-to-TMP refit itself only works if the neck and the pylons were completely removed and replaced.
Okay, that might be hyperbole, I admit. But it kind of feels like that the differences between Jefferies' original design and Eaves' redesign are blown way out of proportion. The general shape is the same with some different details that aren't even apparent for most viewers if you don't take the time to try and superimpose the two models on each other. I definitely didn't notice the engineering hull having a different shape while I was watching the episodes. Is it such an irreconcilable problem that the neck is shorter and the pylons are different, especially if it's a depiction in the late 2250s as opposed to the mid-to-late 2260s, during which it could've had a refit? Even canon purist extraordinaire Bernd Schneider had to admit that the TOS-to-TMP refit itself only works if the neck and the pylons were completely removed and replaced.
The neck is the TMP Refit without the torpedo launcher, and slanted forward a bit more
also interestingly, if you scale the DSC version so the saucer rim is the same height, it's actually not that much taller than the Refit. The Pylons are also at different angles.
also interestingly, if you scale the DSC version so the saucer rim is the same height, it's actually not that much taller than the Refit. The Pylons are also at different angles.
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Like I said before, I can more easily see the DSC Enterprise becoming the TMP Enterprise.The neck is the TMP Refit without the torpedo launcher, and slanted forward a bit more
also interestingly, if you scale the DSC version so the saucer rim is the same height, it's actually not that much taller than the Refit. The Pylons are also at different angles.
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Does that make sense?
No, it doesn't. But that's only if you think that this is actually the way things went. Clearly CBS's line of thinking is that the ship always looked like it did in 2257 of DSC, and we just have to suspend our disbelief that it looked any other way, even when the Cage version appeared on screen when they reused the old footage.
Ephraim and Dot also shows the Enterprise interiors from TOS, despite the external appearance of Eaves's version. Do you really think sickbay in SNW is going to be an exact match with the sickbay from TOS?
I don't think E&D is a really good source of proof for anything.
E&D, Calypso... They seem to exist in a timeline all their own.
It seems to be up to each showrunner what designs they use.
Lower Decks uses the original TOS Enterprise design. Picard doesn't use the Discovery Andorian makeup, but does use the DSC Tellarite makeup. Lower Decks uses TNG Klingon makeup design.
Prodigy
Uses the TOS uniforms for Uhura and Spock, the TOS Enterprise design, and the TNG Klingon design
Plus as others have mentioned, they still allow novels and comics to use the TOS Connie design for stories set during that TV series.
Exactly. There is zero consistency between all these shows. And my original point from a few posts back is that CBS isn't concerned one iota about that. It's not CBS's job to maintain consistency in its shows. That's the job of the showrunner, but that's only if said showrunner chooses to do that, or even bothers to see what other shows are doing.
Now, do I think CBS cares so little that they're going to let one of their showrunners do something drastic like kill off Uhura, or make Chekov a female? No, I doubt that's going to happen. But lesser changes are almost inevitable.
Anyone who thinks these shows (TOS included) are going to fit together seamlessly is in for lots of disappointment.
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I think the jury's still out on "Calypso". Without spoiling anything, there have been a few moments where I've thought, "Is this how it happens?" I won't get anymore specific than that, since this is the wrong forum.
Oh yeah for sure they care about story/lore consistency.
1. TOS
2. TMP
3. DSC
But the external appearance of the DSC one is a very close third.
2. TMP
3. DSC
But the external appearance of the DSC one is a very close third.
Yeah. I'm with this.
1. The Enterprise as it appeared in Star Trek.
That’s it.
That’s it.
I do like the Kelvin 1701-A better than the Kelvin Enterprise from the first two movies. The nacelles being smaller and less steroid-pumped in proportions helps a great deal.
