Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Amasov]

That is how they should introduce Scotty. A lower rank engineer who Pike soon finds out knows the ship better than the chief engineer. Sulu shows up still in life sciences I think it was. Jason

Yup, exactly. I would love that. As the show nears its final season, gradually start to introduce the TOS crew. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that the logical end of SNW is Pike literally handing command over to Kirk.

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[DigificWriter]

Several things:
1) The Q&A Short Trek is set in 2250, so Amin being in that means absolutely nothing with regards to Strange New Worlds

2) Having one character be substituted for with a different character - as in the case of the Nilsson/Ina thing - is entirely different than an entire bridge crew of speaking recurring characters being replaced; the former is a small-enough shift that it doesn't necessarily require a specific in-narrative explanation (although we did get a more general comment earlier in the season that accounts for the Nilsson/Ina thing when we learned that nearly 90 people stayed onboard Discovery when it went into the future), whereas the latter is a much larger change and therefore warrants being commented upon within the narrative in a specific way

3) The fact that the producers of current Star Trek offered an in-universe explanation for the Klingons having hair in DSC Season 2 is a key example of the fact that they care about internal narrative consistency and continuity

 

[Lord Garth]

Yup, exactly. I would love that. As the show nears its final season, gradually start to introduce the TOS crew. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that the logical end of SNW is Pike literally handing command over to Kirk.

I'm calling it now. I think the foregone conclusion of Strange New Worlds is Talos IV. This is Pike's series and that's the end of his story. Or the end of his known story. But, one way or another, I think Talos IV will figure into this series.

 

[Boris Skrbic]

Can we at least hope (against hope?) that SNW won’t be anything like what we’d expect?

1) Suppose that with Burnham gone, the time spent on Spock is minimal, since there would be no ‘triumvirate’ here. Spock would be like Chekov, basically.

2) Suppose the focus really is on “strange new worlds”, in that scientific consultants are hired to come up with interesting planetary exploration scenarios based on what we know or suspect today, with rarely seen interpretations of alien life.

3) By extension, suppose the five-year mission is taken seriously when Pike continues to restate what we now know is ‘the captain’s oath’, so that we never see Earth, rarely a starbase and almost never a colony or another scientific expedition.
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[Tuskin38]

"Point of Light" at the 18:37-mark.

Burnham: "I heard, post-war, the Klingons are growing their hair again."
Tyler: "The rumors are true."

That doesn't say they shaved it because of the war.

 

[Tuskin38]

in that scientific consultants are hired to come up with interesting planetary exploration scenarios based on what we know or suspect today, with rarely seen interpretations of alien life.

So they can just ignore them like TNG/DS9/VOY did?

 

[Jinn]

I'd really like to see titular strange new worlds, but I hope they'll put quality over quantity. I'd rather see one or two planets and their societies portrayed in-depth, as multi-faceted cultures, and avoid the boring mono-cultures that virtually all previous Trek species were. Coupled with some good character development this could be a reallygood show. Or maybe they're gonna do something completely else. Who knows.

That doesn't say they shaved it because of the war.

It very strongly implies it.

 

[DigificWriter]

That doesn't say they shaved it because of the war.

You're right.

It does explain the change from Klingons without hair to Klingons with hair within the narrative, though, which is what you claimed didn't happen.

 

[Boris Skrbic]

So they can just ignore them like TNG/DS9/VOY did?

That’s where the ‘unexpected’ comes in: SNW makes a 180 and tries to be nothing like the shows that came before (not that Andre Bormanis, Mike Okuda or Rick Sternbach were entirely unsuccessful in their script-review efforts, far from it).

 

[F. King Daniel]

1) Suppose that with Burnham gone, the time spent on Spock is minimal, since there would be no ‘triumvirate’ here. Spock would be like Chekov, basically.

The most popular Star Trek character of all, reduced to the new Chekov? No chance.

I just hope they don't have him lose his shit every week. One meltdown per season should do.

 

[Mudd]

That’s where the ‘unexpected’ comes in: SNW makes a 180 and tries to be nothing like the shows that came before.

Nope.

I mean, I know this is your favorite hobby horse, but nope.

 

[Markonian]

To summarize, besides the triumvirate of Pike - Una - Spock returning from DSC s2, only new bridge officers have been confirmed.
Their roles have not been officially identified.
Crew seen in Short Treks and DSC s2 may or may not return.
The inclusion of uptime TOS crew characters is probable.

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Unrelated to the above, how likely is it that the Enterprise has a shuttle Galileo? This time period is dominated by the Class C shuttlecraft but it is possible a precursor of the Class F is around.

 

[fireproof78]

1) Suppose that with Burnham gone, the time spent on Spock is minimal, since there would be no ‘triumvirate’ here. Spock would be like Chekov, basically.

Why? Spock is one of the most popular characters in Trek history. As a character he has featured as part of advertising. To what end would it serve?

 

[137th Gebirg]

That doesn't say they shaved it because of the war.

The obverse implication is present. This is one of those minor things that can be assumed true based on a leap of logic from other on-screen evidence. Either way, it’s unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and was nothing more than a retcon attempt to fix something that should never have happened in the first place under Fuller’s misguided direction, along with the overall general look of the Klingons, square nacelles on SF ships, etc., etc.

 

[DigificWriter]

I used to agree with the assertion that Burnham and Ash's convo in Point of Light implies that the war with the Federation is the reason that the Klingons in DSC Season 1 were hairless, but I've since changed my mind because such a conclusion doesn't actually make sense.

 

[Nerys Myk]

'm pretty sure TOS came up with the premise of a "five-year mission" in deep space to explain the lack of crew rotation for senior officers, since the norm in the military would be for people to routinely rotate out and not stay on the ship for longer than a year or two.

Nah it just sounded good in the opening mono and was a bit of wishful thinking about how long the show would last. The ship's actual missions were a mix of exploring and housekeeping. "Senior" officers rotated off all of the time. A lot of one off Lieutenants, and Lt. Commanders.

 

[1987SpaceGuy]

So with SNW being officially in production, can we get it's finally it's own section on these forums, just like the other Paramount+ shows?

 

[137th Gebirg]

I used to agree with the assertion that Burnham and Ash's convo in Point of Light implies that the war with the Federation is the reason that the Klingons in DSC Season 1 were hairless, but I've since changed my mind because such a conclusion doesn't actually make sense.

Neither much did the wholesale change of the Klingon look and culture. It was unnecessary - change for the sake of change, which rarely works out well.

The season 2 showrunners made attempts at fixing many of the season 1 missteps but there’s only so much lipstick one can put on a pig.

 

[Rhodan]

"Point of Light" at the 18:37-mark.

Burnham: "I heard, post-war, the Klingons are growing their hair again."
Tyler: "The rumors are true."

I still can´t wait for my bald Martok pictures.

 

[fireproof78]

Bald fell out of fashion with the dishonor of Chang.