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I believe from now on, all Star Trek series will have 10 episode seasons. Seasons 4 and 5 of Discovery will also be 10 episode seasons.
 
Could be multipart stories in there, though.
I could see them throwing in a two-parter. Or having character arcs, as opposed to story arcs, running in the background that come to the forefront when an episode makes it prominent. But I don't think they'll have anything more than that.
 
So the first episode script is written by Goldsman based on the story by Goldsman, Kurtzman and Jenny Lumet. This implies that Kurtzman, Goldsman and Lumet will be credited as creators with Gene Roddenberry getting the usual "Based on Star Trek created by" credit.

But maybe GR should get the creator credit. While this is a spinoff from Discovery it really is based on "The Cage" pilot episode written by GR. But they have made GR's son an executive producer on all the CBS Star Trek series, and I doubt if he does much work on them, so the family is probably not going to complain.
 
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I could see them throwing in a two-parter. Or having character arcs, as opposed to story arcs, running in the background that come to the forefront when an episode makes it prominent. But I don't think they'll have anything more than that.

Yeah, two-parters is all I meant. Even TOS had a two-parter.
 
Ideally that should lead to fewer scripts but of a higher quality.

Really hard to keep coming up with good ideas when you have a 20+ episodes a season, especially if that show continues for a long time.

I would be fine with 10 stand alone episodes to be honest, with the Enterprise just exploring to provide time for all of the crew to be properly introduced, assuming they aren't going to concentrate on the main three cast.

The Discovery stand alone episodes worked really well it was the overarching plot that tended to creak a bit in places.

Two parters aren't a bad idea but if I would prefer if they just increase the episode length instead to a full hour.
 
I believe from now on, all Star Trek series will have 10 episode seasons. Seasons 4 and 5 of Discovery will also be 10 episode seasons.

I can live with 10 episodes seasons of each show so long as we (eventually) reach 40, or better, 50 weeks of new episodes per year. With all the shows coming down the pike it should be easy, even if any get delayed or cut.

10 DSC
10 PIC
10 LDS
10 SNW
10 PRO
10 S31

What a time to be alive! *faints*
 
I can live with 10 episodes seasons of each show so long as we (eventually) reach 40, or better, 50 weeks of new episodes per year. With all the shows coming down the pike it should be easy, even if any get delayed or cut.

10 DSC
10 PIC
10 LDS
10 SNW
10 PRO
10 S31

What a time to be alive! *faints*
There was supposed to be 42 weeks of new content for The Walking Dead franchise in 2020. The Corona came along and they've only had 7, with an 8th coming at some point and no guarantees after that.
 
I think CBS ideally wants 4 series of 10 episodes each and 3 week breaks between series. This will cover the entire 52 weeks and the 3 week break is not too long to cause cancellations as each month will have some new Trek content.
 
Ideally that should lead to fewer scripts but of a higher quality.

Really hard to keep coming up with good ideas when you have a 20+ episodes a season, especially if that show continues for a long time.

I would be fine with 10 stand alone episodes to be honest, with the Enterprise just exploring to provide time for all of the crew to be properly introduced, assuming they aren't going to concentrate on the main three cast.

The Discovery stand alone episodes worked really well it was the overarching plot that tended to creak a bit in places.

Two parters aren't a bad idea but if I would prefer if they just increase the episode length instead to a full hour.

I think the problem that both Discovery and Picard had regarding the serialized arc is an issue many serialized dramas have - focusing too heavily on plot to the detriment of character. Often if there's not source material there's a desire to over-plan the arc, with a predetermined conclusion in mind from the beginning. This results in characters who do a lot of nonsensical (or at least flimsily-explained) things in order to railroad the plot to its predetermined conclusion. It also can easily result in issues if you let the beginning portion of the season develop organically, then suddenly realize in the back half of the season how much work remains to get to the end of the arc.

My own preference would be DS9 levels of serialization for SNW. Basically the plots can be standalone, but there should be established progression of characters in the "B plots" and minor asides across the series as a whole. This can allow them let the story flow organically to wherever they want it to go. Like, if they decide they want a Number One character focus episode to examine an off-comment she made four episodes earlier or something.
 
Kurtzman kind of confirmed that there will be 10 SNW episodes. He said the writing staff is breaking down 10 stories.

He said, "The room has started. There are ten stories broken, which is very exciting."

That may well mean there will only be ten episodes. It may also mean that they've only broken ten stories so far.

Edit to add: I hope you're right, though. I think ten episodes is about the sweet spot for the Kurtzman era. That about the point where the Discovery seasons have gone over a cliff.
 
I'm okay with ten episode seasons as long as the gap between the seasons is a bit smaller as well.

Though honestly if you're filming seasons back to back (as is rumored to be the case when Discovery and Picard start filming again) there's really not all that much of a difference from a production side of things. I mean, wasn't one of the stated reasons for moving to the modern short seasons it's easier for actors to fit into their schedules?
 
Yeah, two-parters is all I meant. Even TOS had a two-parter.
Only because they were getting behind in production and they needed something that basically gave them a chance to catch up. Plus given the cost of the original pilot NBC wanted something for its money. GR didn't want to part stories though.

As I understand it what ultimately became "The Naked Time" and "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" story ideas were pitched together as a two-parter, but GR said no.
 
The short season feel like a cheat to me....as someone who tends to buy copies.

If anyof them are roleplayers, there is tons of stuff like andoria, the orion neutral ground (and the orion slave girl human trafficking issue) , all kind of places because there is little to no cannon about pike, conjecture but next to no cannon. Even teh betazoid whiich I believe I recall were supposed to be in STTMP but cut. Have star fellt personnel had to escape being enslaved by orion pirates.....because that seems a great way to make first contact with other unknown species. I remember there was another species that looked human but were more advanced than human (possibly oragians who chose to stay corporal). Short of killing spock and pike and a few others anything goes. All pike need to do is the heroic doomed hero arc in the end. Its literally the most open ended start writers could have in many ways.
 
Now I'm really interested to see with what opening credits they'll come up with. I liked both the Picard and Discovery openings, but I think I'd like to see something more space-y and planet-y for SNW.
 
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