Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[gblews]

Many Trek fans have been saying since CBSAA debuted that it was the best thing that could have happened to the Trek franchise. Those fans were absolutely right. Their aim appears to be to present enough quality Trek shows to keep as many fans as possible subscribed year round. CBS also seems intent on reaching out to as many factions of the fan base as possible. Now the “we want exploration” crowd gets something. But really, we all are the beneficiaries.

Anson Mount and Ethan Peck were just too good on DSC to not do this new show. They need to go ahead and dust off the “boldly go” speech for SNW.

 

[Garth Rockett]

"Ess-Enn-Doubleyou" is more of a mouthful to say than "Strange New Worlds"; it'll probably be shortened to just "Worlds" or something.

Well, wouldn't the SNW abbreviation be for written purposes? "Pee-Eye-See" is more of a mouthful than "Picard", for example, but the PIC abbreviation is still used in writing.

Looking forward to this. I really like those three, especially Anson Mount. We didn't get to see enough of Rebecca Romijn's Number One during Discovery S2 for my tastes. I'm feeling optimistic.

At this point, the length of the show's seasons are short enough that I'm not too worried about audience burnout yet, but seeing Akiva Goldsman involved in yet another show does make me concerned that we may quickly hit creative burnout if too many people are working on multiple shows. (And I know there are probably some who think we've passed that point already....) Shake things up with the writing staff from show to show, please.

Format wise, I'd love to see something like season 4 of Enterprise - a mix of 2 and 3 parters with the occasional standalone. Maybe an overarching theme / plot connecting things like RTD-era Doctor Who or Buffy, but also individual stories that can be enjoyed on rewatch without the context of the full season.

 

[NCC-73515]

Yes, but the implications remain. Also, Spock's wonderful commentary about how efficient Nazi Germany was as though that justified Gill's implementation.

It is a very strange episode to be sure.

Spock telling Kirk he'll make a very convincing Nazi...

I also hope they get Spock's hair and sideburns right this time. Ideally Peck would just use his own hair and it would get cut in the right way. That likely would look better than any wig they can create.

It's really odd: they first got the hairline right, but the sideburns wrong, then they corrected the sideburns and messed up the hairline... the ear bulges are also too much, no Vulcan ever had such ears

 

[fireproof78]

Of all the things to complain about ears and haircuts are way down on my list...

 

[Trekker4747]

Now the “we want t exploration” crowd gets something. We all are the benefactors.

What evidence is there this show will be centered on the exploration aspects other than the words of those behind the show and the cut of a trailer? These things lie all of the time.

Format wise, I'd love to see something like season 4 of Enterprise - a mix of 2 and 3 parters with the occasional standalone. Maybe an overarching theme / plot connecting things like RTD-era Doctor Who or Buffy, but also individual stories that can be enjoyed on rewatch without the context of the full season.

I think Season 4 of Enterprise did a lot of things well. the balance between arcs and stand-alone and the touching on nostalgia aspects with the new. The series really could have done some good things from there if it continued with that tone and format of story telling.

 

[Lord Garth]

Honestly, at this point, I say bury Star Trek and let it be dead.

Don't let him get to you. If he wants to be bitter, then let him be. 95% of the people in this thread seem excited about this news. CBS All Access is trying to reach the 95, not the 5.

Shortly after I graduated college, when I was looking for a job, I almost worked for some advertising company. They made us do door-to-door promotion. I decided it wasn't for me and didn't even make it to the second day. But one thing my trainer told me was gold. I can't remember exactly what he said because it's been over 15 years, but it was something to the effect of "7% of clients will never be satisfied, so we're trying to aim for the 93%."

It stuck with me ever since. I still keep that in mind, even today.

 

[Trekker4747]

Don't let him get to you. If he wants to be bitter, then let him be. 95% of the people in this thread seem excited about this news. CBS All Access is trying to reach the 95, not the 5.

And I don't know what there is to be excited about, other than a third Star Trek series being on simultaneously. Oh and we got a nifty in-canon cartoon coming soon made by the same guy behind Rick and Morty! I mean there's no way THAT won't be a farcical disaster.

Give me and show me something to be excited about and I'll be there, but everything in the Trek series around now I've seen leaves me with no reason to be excited.

 

[fireproof78]

And I don't know what there is to be excited about, other than a third Star Trek series being on simultaneously. Oh and we got a nifty in-canon cartoon coming soon made by the same guy behind Rick and Morty! I mean there's no way THAT won't be a farcical disaster.

Give me and show me something to be excited about and I'll be there, but everything in the Trek series around now I've seen leaves me with no reason to be excited.

Don't be excited. But, Pike is one of those characters I have wanted since I watched the Cage on VHS back when I was 9. That's reason enough for me. The characters mean more than all the pew-pew and swearing that hangs a lot of people up on.

Don't let him get to you. If he wants to be bitter, then let him be. 95% of the people in this thread seem excited about this news. CBS All Access is trying to reach the 95, not the 5.

It's not him. It's simply a belief that I have around Star Trek. I do not know if it needs to continue. I am thoroughly entertained by it but I am also aware that it would be OK for it to cease.

 

[Mudd]

I'm just calling it STS. It's easy to say and to type.

 

[Vger23]

The TNG people are just pissed that there's another iteration of Trek coming that will be focused on the roots of the franchise when adventure and fun were the focus, and that there won't be entire episodes taking place in the conference room.

 

[Vger23]

Honestly, the creative team have said multiple times that they are not putting a Trek show out unless it is sufficiently different from other productions already in progress.

Im sure SNW will be a little more episodic / exploration based, because that's a different direction than PIC and DSC.

 

[Trekker4747]

The TNG people are just pissed that there's another iteration of Trek coming that will be focused on the roots of the franchise when adventure and fun were the focus, and that there won't be entire episodes taking place in the conference room.

And TOS never had scenes of characters talking or being in a conference room.

 

[Vger23]

And TOS never had scenes of characters talking or being in a conference room.

They surely did. But afterward they went and did some exciting shit.

 

[donners22]

It does when the entire drive of the series is to get from one action scene to the next which is all I gathered from Discovery.

That is as shallow a "gather" as finding that the drive of TNG is to pump out bland, formulaic, trope-riddled stories with robotic character interactions and technobabble solutions.

I'd happy take Discovery and Picard over most of what we got through the Berman era. If you wouldn't, you at least have hundreds of hours of the Trek you enjoy to re-watch.

Honestly, at this point, I say bury Star Trek and let it be dead.

I prefer to just bury Trek fandom. I find it makes Trek so much more enjoyable. I didn't even know about this series until my partner told me, since I'd cut myself off so completely from Trek on social media. This is the first page I clicked on about it, and half the posts are one person complaining about it, which is a neat illustration of why I made that decision.

 

[Lord Garth]

And I don't know what there is to be excited about, other than a third Star Trek series being on simultaneously. Oh and we got a nifty in-canon cartoon coming soon made by the same guy behind Rick and Morty! I mean there's no way THAT won't be a farcical disaster.

Give me and show me something to be excited about and I'll be there, but everything in the Trek series around now I've seen leaves me with no reason to be excited.

I'm sure something will come your way eventually. Probably just not during the Kurtzman Era.

 

[Vger23]

I prefer to just bury Trek fandom. I find it makes Trek so much more enjoyable. I didn't even know about this series until my partner told me, since I'd cut myself off so completely from Trek on social media. This is the first page I clicked on about it, and half the posts are one person complaining about it, which is a neat illustration of why I made that decision.

Trek fans are totally thiefs of joy.

 

[fireproof78]

They surely did. But afterward they went and did some exciting shit.

Indeed, hence why GR sold it as a "action/adventure" series in the first place.

 

[Vger23]

Moderators: y no SNW dedicated forum yet??!!!1!1!

 

[JulieYBM]

I really enjoyed the camaraderie of these actors during Star Trek: Discovery Season Two. As such, I am definitely looking forward to Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. I hope the series uses a varied number of storytelling techniques both in the narrative structure and visual language of the film making. I look forward to seeing how they experiment with music, too, since I get the feeling they might be re-purposing the 1966 series' main theme.

 

[Noname Given]

I find yet another TV series out there with brooding characters sniping at each other acting like normal 21st century people far more boring. If this show wants to be doing something different going with something closer to "Gene's vision" would be far more remarkable.

^^^
TOS WAS GR's "Vision" - whaty camme after (read TNG) was GR going senile.