Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread
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They broke up the arc with stand alone episodes. That’s the difference.
Oh I'm sure, they're probably already producing the Beanie Babies, Action Figures, and Lunch Boxes as we speak.
Really DS9 wasn't serialized as much as it had character continuity. There were serialized aspects (first six episodes of Season 6, last nine of Season 7) and more two/three parters than TNG before it. But the majority of the series was still semi-standalones. They were just standalones which built on what came before in an organic way. This is part of why DS9 worked so well - they didn't have a "big plan" except in the broadest strokes, but kept deepening the stories as they understood the characters better and better. Essentially the plots served the characters, rather than the characters serving the plot (which is the issue I often have with modern serialized drama).
Agreed. It wasn't serialized in the modern sense. I think it was just something that came out of the staff feeling that this wasn't a story that could be resolved in a handful of episodes before moving on to something else, without consequence.
I don't think John Gill was a terrible person. Just really really dumb. He might be one of the hardest characters in Trek to figure out. His plan is beyond stupid yet at the same time it's established he wasn't trying to play Hitler or anything and it was the aliens who subverted his goal. Also why use the exact uniforms on earth? I don't think they really thought the episode out to well. They just thought it would be cool to see Kirk and Spock in Nazi uniforms and fighting against some Nazi's.
Jason
The show will be about the emerging intelligence of the DOT-7's and will end with their attempted mutiny
If I can have character continuity that would be awesome. Even comedy series like MASH and Brooklyn 99 do it.
So, it can be episodic but give me consequences that matter to the characters.
So, it can be episodic but give me consequences that matter to the characters.
Yes, but the implications remain. Also, Spock's wonderful commentary about how efficient Nazi Germany was as though that justified Gill's implementation.
It is a very strange episode to be sure.
Write a letter. I'm sure they'll take your disappointment to heart and get right to work on Star Trek: The Next NEXT Generation immediately.
Bryan Fuller can't hold a job down. Anywhere.
I'm sure that s exactly what it will be about.
Oh noes! Gene's vision and the optimism and intellectual superiority of the old days Trek is dead???? No wai!!!!
As @Lord Garth likes to say, "All the right people are hating it"
Easy to do when you have 26 episodes per season. Back then, we called it "filler"
Oh noes! Gene's vision and the optimism and intellectual superiority of the old days Trek is dead???? No wai!!!!
I find yet another TV series out there with brooding characters sniping at each other acting like normal 21st century people far more boring. If this show wants to be doing something different going with something closer to "Gene's vision" would be far more remarkable.
Which version of his Vision?
Something far from this:
I'm not saying his vision was perfect or consistent but there's some middle ground from the way it was done in Early TNG and how it's not being done today.
So an action scene means that his vision no longer applies?Something far from this:
I'm not saying his vision was perfect or consistent but there's some middle ground from the way it was done in Early TNG and how it's not being done today.
I feel like that is baby with the bathwater situation.
I'm looking forward to checking it out! 
It does when the entire drive of the series is to get from one action scene to the next which is all I gathered from Discovery. How about a cool action scene where the ship constantly jumps from position to position using it's tardigrade-powered spore drive!
YEAH!!
Sorry, I'm not motivated, excited or impressed.
I can watch pretty much any of TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager or Enterprise and be sufficiently entertained (to vary degrees ont he those last three series) but when ever I see something from Discovery or a Short Trek I just get annoyed and feel like I'm watching something completely different. And I was with Picard up to a specific point and I got disgusted.
It's not about "Gene's vision" it's just the general look, feel, and tone of things and it's just not getting there with me and I don't see why this series should be anything different. I'll likely check out the first episode of two, but unless it radically shows me something I can get behind there's no reason for me to be all "Squeeeeee!!!!!" over this. And it's the third running Trek series in production now. Remember back when we thought things were getting over saturated with both DS9 and Voyager running and then they immediately going to Enterprise when Voyager ended?
What reason is there to think things are different now?
Mileage will vary. I prefer the characters to TNG or VOY at this point.
It's not. So what?
People were begging for years for Trek to come back to TV and now its back and its the "Well, its ovrersatured."
Honestly, at this point, I say bury Star Trek and let it be dead.
