Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[cooleddie74]

It can be jarring, but other characters change physical appearance and actor and more than once. T'Pau is played by no fewer than three different actresses across three series. One of Russian extract, an Asian-American woman and a white American actress with a pretty plain accent that doesn't remotely resemble her other incarnation's. But all three are Prime Timeline and the same continuity.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Got me there. I meant portrayals we've seen.

@cooleddie74 I guess we notice who we notice. Maybe it's harder with aliens than humans.

 

[Jayson1]

Robert April should have looked like Gene Roddenberry! LOL I actually remember that use to be the photo they used when showing what Captain April looked like. They even used it in the Star Trek Encyclopedia which I not only once bought but also the updated version as well. I had all the canon of Trek within my hands whenever I would read it!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Got me there. I meant portrayals we've seen.

Peck and Nimoy?
Romjin and Barrett?
Bush and Barrett?
Mount and Hunter?
Gooding and Nichols?

All "close enough?"

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

I guess it just seemed like they were casting people who looked somewhat like the previous actors, much as you might cast a person in a biography who looks like a historical person they're playing.

But some of it can be attributed to costumes and makeup, too.

I guess the question you could ask is, if you were making a biopic about the actor who played such-and-such character, would you cast the new actor who's playing the character (assuming they had the imitation, from an acting standpoint, down)

 

[fireproof78]

Peck and Nimoy?
Romjin and Barrett?
Bush and Barrett?
Mount and Hunter?
Gooding and Nichols?

All "close enough?"

An oldy but a goody: Alley and Curtis.

 

[Firebird]

I guess the question you could ask is, if you were making a biopic about the actor who played such-and-such character, would you cast the new actor who's playing the character (assuming they had the imitation, from an acting standpoint, down)

I wouldn't want an actor who's just there to do an imitation; that defeats the whole purpose of telling a story. I'd want an actor that can embody the person being portrayed without it being a by-rote stage act impression and elevate the script and story.

Peter O'Toole was much taller and more attractive than T.E. Lawrence, but it didn't matter because his portrayal in Lawrence of Arabia was exactly what the movie needed to convey.

 

[Nerys Myk]

An oldy but a goody: Alley and Curtis.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

If you could suspend your disbelief...I guess it depends on the person and the situation. Some people can accept anything, anytime, anywhere, and just go with it; others zero in on a particular quality and ignore other things; still others demand everything the way they want it to be.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I guess it just seemed like they were casting people who looked somewhat like the previous actors, much as you might cast a person in a biography who looks like a historical person they're playing.

But some of it can be attributed to costumes and makeup, too.

I guess the question you could ask is, if you were making a biopic about the actor who played such-and-such character, would you cast the new actor who's playing the character (assuming they had the imitation, from an acting standpoint, down)

No, because you're making a biopic about the actor, not the character. You try to find someone who looks like the actor. (Not always true though)

As I said a few years back about Celia Rose Gooding when folks said she didn't look like Nichols. She's playing Uhura, not Nichols.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

A good actor makes you forget everything else. Especially when you're not documenting everything about the franchise for posterity.

 

[Nerys Myk]

A good actor makes you forget everything else.

Yep. Peck looks nothing like Nimoy, but he is very much Spock to me.

 

[fireproof78]

Yep. Peck looks nothing like Nimoy, but he is very much Spock to me.

Quinto is similarly very much Spock to me.

 

[Okmyx]

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Are they similar? Yes, they both have the first name Dick.

 

[Tiran O'Saurus]

Look, they're not ignoring TAS because that's the only place that the Enterprise's first captain being Robert April was even mentioned. Kelvin was ignoring TAS when they made Pike the first captain. As for why he's black, my explanation is the same as the tribbles are pink and the Andorians are gray in TAS: while the events are canon the visuals (especially colors) are not.

 

[Jayson1]

The Kelvin timeline was a different universe. They didn't have to stick with canon at all if they didn't want to and for the most part they didn't.

 

[137th Gebirg]

True - he might have died along with his crew in some random Klingon incursion between the time of the Nerada's arrival and the E's construction. Irrelevant to that timeline.

 

[fireproof78]

Kelvin was ignoring TAS when they made Pike the first captain.

Yet used Yesteryear as part of the bullying of Spock portrayal.

 

[Tiran O'Saurus]

Yeah, because it was an alternate timeline and thus could pick and choose what it wanted. I was just demonstrating that April is only used in the TAS origins of the Enterprise and using him is in and of itself a reference to TAS.

 

[fireproof78]

Does this make Enterprise out of continuity?