Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[The Wormhole]

When did it begin? If the mirror universe split off the prime universe as a result of something the prime universe people did, the future mirror universe inhabitants would inherit the name "mirror universe" from their prime predecessors.

The animated graphic of the Terran Empire's logo seen in Enterprise shows Earth spinning in the opposite direction, meaning in the MU the sun would rise in the west and set in the east. For awhile, it was my "hed canon" that the difference in humanity between the two universes was triggered by cavemen travelling in the direction of the sun.

The matter gets muddied in Disco, where their animated graphic of the Terran Empire's logo does show Earth spinning in the correct direction, but the continents are inverted, meaning the east coast is now the west coast, and the west coast is now east.

Regardless, both depictions make it clear Earth was always different in the Mirror Universe than in the Prime.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Unless somebody went back in time and reversed the rotation somehow.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Unless somebody went back in time and reversed the rotation somehow.

That only works with polarity.

 

[Tuskin38]

It was Superman

 

[NCC-73515]

It's possible that the Roman Empire never fell, or was resurrected, and became the Terran one. That was a theory long before Disco used Latin credentials to address the Emperor. The salute is also kinda Roman.

 

[Skywalker]

I prefer to think the split occurred when both universes were created, and the MU was always the way it was. It's simpler that way.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Then where did the name come from?

 

[cooleddie74]

In-universe? Who knows. But in the real world it got its name from the TOS episode from whence it sprang and managed to stick.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Probably Alice in Wonderland, with how they keep talking about going through the looking glass.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Calling one's reality the "mirror universe" implies knowledge that it mirrors something.

 

[Firebird]

Calling one's reality the "mirror universe" implies knowledge that it mirrors something.

Or it's just shorthand the writers use to inform the audience what they're doing.

Sometimes, the cigar is just a cigar.

 

[The Wormhole]

Calling one's reality the "mirror universe" implies knowledge that it mirrors something.

Most likely the writers didn't think it through. Indeed, when Georgiou said she was from the Mirror Universe, it was the first time that term was used onscreen in Star Trek. I'd say the writers were probably so used to saying it amongst themselves, they accidentally inserted it into the script forgetting that it's never been used within the show before.

 

[fireproof78]

Most likely the writers didn't think it through. Indeed, when Georgiou said she was from the Mirror Universe, it was the first time that term was used onscreen in Star Trek. I'd say the writers were probably so used to saying it amongst themselves, they accidentally inserted it into the script forgetting that it's never been used within the show before.

It honestly doesn't bother me that much. Georgiou is very much aware that the reason she is in Burnham's universe is because of who she reminds Burnham of, but that's a Georgiou she never was, and a life she never lived, except mirrored.

 

[trekfan_1]

I always saw the mirror universe as simply one alternative timeline that happens to be predominantly "opposite" to the prime timeline. So it could conceivably be just one of the many realities that exist as seen in TNG's Parallels.

It's simply a parallel timeline. "Mirror Mirror " was a slang-ish term used by the original writer as a metaphor and it slowly crept into the in- canon vernacular.

IMO, I always found that the universe the TOS crew encountered too convenient to just happen be the "evil" version of Star Trek. I find it an excerse in "wouldn't it be keeeewl if our heros were baaaad " ? ( insert sadistic snear) Also think its too technologically easy to jump universes. And why that particular timeline and not another? Personally, I would prefer everytime a universe jump is made , it would take you to another version of it.
Never been a fan of it personally on multiple levels. And I agree with Rom, the term doesn't really make any sense as there is nuance to the "Mirror " timeline that doesn't translate to everything being totally evil or opposite. But I guess "Mirror-ish universe " doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

 

[UssGlenn]

Calling one's reality the "mirror universe" implies knowledge that it mirrors something.

The prime universe is a mirror as well. Whenever a character does something that really doesn't make sense, its them being influenced by the decision of their mirror universe counterpart. this helps keep the 2 universes in sync.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

So the universes are twinned? Meaning however many universes there are, it must always be an even number?

 

[Firebird]

Not necessarily. If every choice under the sun leads to an alternate quantum reality, that doesn’t limit things to a binary yes-no.

 

[137th Gebirg]

This is why I’ve always had trouble with the term “THE Mirror Universe”, as if there was only one. This does imply there’s some inexorable link between the two.

 

[fireproof78]

So the universes are twinned? Meaning however many universes there are, it must always be an even number?

I always thought, until DS9, that certain events or characters were quantumly linked but choices over time eventually allowed the two to separate away, resulting in the Klingon-Cardassian Union and further disparate events. And, given Kovich's comments about the two timelines being further apart by his time it seems that quantum link degraded over time.

 

[Frontis]

I'm not a big fan of mirror universes.
Well ok, sometimes it's fun and I liked the bad Kira.
But I don't take these episodes too serious.