Wasn’t nitpicking. I was being humorous. Perhaps I should have added a smiley face emoji.
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Wasn’t nitpicking. I was being humorous. Perhaps I should have added a smiley face emoji.
Well, you know what they say:
Hair today, gone tomorrow.
Hair today, gone tomorrow.
The Pike's Peak will be in a separate accessory set that will be sold as an online exclusive. 
If you deep watch this a bit, it looks like the story was quite different at that point and I wonder if Lorca was as well. "Ensign Michael Burnham" - I wonder how they got to that. And he asks her to take a seat - so the standee dark ready room idea hadn't made it yet either. And he doesn't have the "war and hunger making a comeback thanks to you" line either. I wonder what MB's backstory was at this stage - and indeed Lorca's. I'm intrigued now.I never knew that Anson Mount auditioned for Lorca...
Anson Mount (@ansonmount.bsky.social)
The first 1:00 of my audition for Captain Gabriel Lorca about… 7 years ago??? I think you’ll see why they hired the right guy when they went with Jason. In fact, when my representatives told me who they hired, my response was, “Fair enough”. @startrek.bsky.social #startrekbsky.app
He doesn't seem too enthusiastic about the fiery pit of hades once known as Twitter, so it's only on BlueSky I believe.
I definitely prefer him as Pike.
Or they just made up a scene just for the audition. It's not unheard of. Maybe to hide some of the real plot. It's possible they were hiding the mirror universe twist from the actor before they were hired.
Jason Issacs said he knew from the start, but he could have meant after he was cast.
Jason Issacs said he knew from the start, but he could have meant after he was cast.
No, the writers were improvising as they went, around footage and a production that had been designed for a very different TV series.
That Isaacs was told early on that his character was from the Mirror Universe demonstrates nothing to the contrary, but simply that the MU was an element in Fuller's original "multiuniversal" series arc - the one that Paramount decided was too complicated and confused to commit to.
IIRC, the original plan was Lorca was from another alternate reality, one where the Battle of the Binary Stars turned out differently and Michael was instead celebrated as a hero who prevented war. I don't think it's been clarified if this is what Jason Isaacs was told when he was cast, or if they actually told him about the Mirror Universe itself.
The thing that irked me about DSC’s depiction of the MU, is why there seems to be only one, and why they constantly refer to it as such. Surely, there are other MU’s out there in the multiverse, perhaps a little less eeeee-vil. Perhaps a little bit more?
Worse, Georgiou refers to it as “I’m from THE Mirror Universe” when she transports out in front of Pike. Wouldn’t we be in her “Mirror Universe”, with hers being the Prime Universe from her POV? DS9 didn’t do the greatest job with the MU, but DSC did a complete hackneyed job of it.
Interestingly, LDS in its final season did a better job of tackling multiverse oddities (on par with the philosophical approach that Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy did with the infinite improbability drive) since the original “Mirror, Mirror” TOS episode that first broached the subject.
Worse, Georgiou refers to it as “I’m from THE Mirror Universe” when she transports out in front of Pike. Wouldn’t we be in her “Mirror Universe”, with hers being the Prime Universe from her POV? DS9 didn’t do the greatest job with the MU, but DSC did a complete hackneyed job of it.
Interestingly, LDS in its final season did a better job of tackling multiverse oddities (on par with the philosophical approach that Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy did with the infinite improbability drive) since the original “Mirror, Mirror” TOS episode that first broached the subject.
It's just what it's called. They gave the universe a name and it's 'The Mirror Universe'.
Though if you consider Discovery to be a parallel universe itself then it's Discovery's Mirror Universe!
Though if you consider Discovery to be a parallel universe itself then it's Discovery's Mirror Universe!
Even Kovich/Daniels referred to it as the Mirror Universe when he was talking to or about Emperor Georgiou.
When did it begin? If the mirror universe split off the prime universe as a result of something the prime universe people did, the future mirror universe inhabitants would inherit the name "mirror universe" from their prime predecessors.
That’s a good point - the split occurred in ENT when Cochrane and the WWIII survivors attacked the Vulcans at Bozeman instead of welcome them. The MU isn’t an alternate universe at all, but rather an alternate timeline. But I guess the terms “timeline” and “universe” seem to be used interchangeably these days, so it’s more of an exercise in semantics than anything else at this point.
Don’t the opening images of ENT’s Mirror episodes show an entire alternate history?
It does. Even the Mirror Universe space agency faking the first Moon landing. 
There's no evidence (that I can recall) that it ever split off as a branching timeline and no evidence that it didn't, aside from some characters having a sensitivity to light.
No that's not it. If there even is a split, it was a lot farther back than that, Phlox says the classic literature is completely different between the universes.
It could have been the result of time travel from a later century back to an earlier one, thereby taking place at/with the involvement of two moments in time.
