... Who still haven't gotten over Seven of Nine ("PICARD was supposed to have been the first human to be assimilated! This violates continuity!
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... Who still haven't gotten over Seven of Nine ("PICARD was supposed to have been the first human to be assimilated! This violates continuity!
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Wow, doubly glad we dodged that bullet. Sounds like pure fan fiction, which also destroys the most influential element in Picard's character development.
... Who still haven't gotten over Seven of Nine ("PICARD was supposed to have been the first human to be assimilated! This violates continuity!
Where was it established that Picard was the first human to be assimilated? Most Borg look pretty human to me. I thought he was chosen by the Borg as a "spokesperson" due to his knowledge of Starfleet operations (i.e. they didn't care what he could say to the Federation, just what he knew about it).
It's basically what I assumed SNW would be based on the way everyone's been talking about it.
Who cares about PIC and Borg... it's SNW here 
(till it finally gets it's own subsection...) and I'm happy they doing this with a more classic flavor episodic with character arcs.
(till it finally gets it's own subsection...) and I'm happy they doing this with a more classic flavor episodic with character arcs.
Exactly so. That comes as no surprise.
I do not care about the Borg.
I love how he says to know how your serial is going to end before you begin.
That's kind of surprising he would admit what seemed obvious, but I thought was unthinkable, to a production with millions of dollars spent on it. Wonder how far they got shooting before they figured out the end?
That's kind of surprising he would admit what seemed obvious, but I thought was unthinkable, to a production with millions of dollars spent on it. Wonder how far they got shooting before they figured out the end?
It came up when Seven of Nine first appeared on Voyager (a lot of TNG fans back then were having a cow over the matter).
These are the same people who didn't appreciate Enterprise preceding TOS (They think Trek began with Kirk and Spock. Oh, and they don't like Spock having a sister named Michael Burnham, either -- if it didn't happen in the 1960's, it didn't happen, period).
These people exist. I've met them on Twitter (they've been predicting Disco's cancellation for the past four seasons).
***sigh*** You know what they say about broken clocks ...
Somewhere in the far future, when Disco finally DOES go off the air, they're going to be jumping in the stands screaming, "WE CALLED IT!"
Personally, I think this constant wailing and gnashing of teeth over canon is ridiculous. If some future producer wants to make Spock a 5,000-year-old interstellar time traveler who originally hails from the planet Deltran Four, that's what they're going to do.
We're not in charge. No amount of bellyaching online is going to change that.
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If they say, "We called it!" if Discovery ends after its seventh season, I'll smack them upside the head.Somewhere in the far future, when Disco finally DOES go off the air, they're going to be jumping in the stands screaming, "WE CALLED IT!"
Indeed, yes. Is it that damaging to personal viewing pleasure that we introduce previously unknown elements?
I didn’t have a problem with the direction in that episode. But I really loved the Picard series right from the start and was probably watching through rose colored glasses.
I thought he did a good job directing the 3rd episode of Discovery which was kind of like a pilot episode.
Interesting tidbit from Goldsmith...more at the link...
https://trekmovie.com/2021/04/12/st...making-strange-new-worlds-look-more-like-tos/
https://trekmovie.com/2021/04/12/st...making-strange-new-worlds-look-more-like-tos/
We've been talking about that for the last two pages lol
Let's think back to Best of Both Worlds, and the follow ups Family and First Contact.
Characters can be deepened and more fleshed out, if they grow and evolve from their experiences. And with the Episodic structure back - those experiences can be more varied.
Kirk accepting his aging, but determined to not give in to it
Picard coping with his assimilation experiences (they should have followed up with his torturing too but they didnt)
Sisco adapting to his role as Emissary
Janeway's depression looking back at her past decisions
Archer learning to drop his antagonism and prejudices
I await the SNW novel that explains the change.
Maybe I'm being too charitable, but I would expect studio interference to some degree played a role here. Often when things don't work out in a movie or TV show, and it seems incoherent, it's because someone intervened and forced rewrites too late in the process for the finished product to be completely coherent.
Who said she's depressed?
To paraphrase her from "Scorpion," someone had to make the call -- and she made it.
In the end, she got her crew home -- and that's all that mattered to her. She couldn't function as either a captain or a military officer if she had to constantly second-guess her decisions. Too many people were depending upon her.
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There were a few Quantum Leap episodes like that - I just watched a Season 1 episode that was basically a "driving miss daisy" inspired episode, and noticed the word a few times. In the Heat of the Night used it quite liberally as well. Its shocking, but I think thats the point, to make you uncomfortable, and make you think.
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