Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

[Vlasko]

Nope.

Yup. That's where the repeated "query" stuff came from in the pilot. Data just used "inquiry" instead in the pilot of TNG and early episodes. And then they had spock give an immediate and unnecessarily precise time reference in years, months, days, and minutes as Data famously did. I guess they spared the seconds.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Spock casually getting jiggy with T'Pring is pretty far from Mr Data. And Spock was doing the exact percentages/countdowns in TOS long before Data did it.

 

[cooleddie74]

Spock in "Errand of Mercy":

"Difficult to be precise, Captain. I should say, approximately 7,824.7 to 1."

 

[Vlasko]

He acts like "Cage" Era Spock. That's what he acts like. DATA is the character that was designed to behave sort of like TOS Spock.

I'm not saying he generally acts like Data. That's not what I meant. But they did seem to incorporate a couple of Data's mannerisms from the pilot of TNG.

 

[Vlasko]

Spock casually getting jiggy with T'Pring is pretty far from Mr Data. And Spock was doing the exact percentages/countdowns in TOS long before Data did it.

Okay. I don't remember the countdowns. But I last watched through TOS probably five years ago. So maybe you're right.

 

[Harpsichord]

Yup. That's where the repeated "query" stuff came from in the pilot. Data just used "inquiry" instead in the pilot of TNG and early episodes. And then they had spock give an immediate and unnecessarily precise time reference in years, months, days, and minutes as Data famously did. I guess they spared the seconds.

KIRK: I took over the Enterprise from him. Spock served with him for several years.
SPOCK: Eleven years, four months, five days.

From Menagerie.

 

[Vlasko]

KIRK: I took over the Enterprise from him. Spock served with him for several years.
SPOCK: Eleven years, four months, five days.

From Menagerie.

Thank you.

 

[fireproof78]

Thank you.

 

[Vlasko]

Yes, it looks more like Data incorporated a couple Spock-like mannerisms instead.

 

[fireproof78]

Yes, it looks more like Data incorporated a couple Spock-like mannerisms instead.

quelle surprise, given that Data was based upon Xon from the Phase 2 Star Trek drafts who was a replacement Vulcan character for Spock.

 

[Noname Given]

Spock in "Errand of Mercy":

"Difficult to be precise, Captain. I should say, approximately 7,824.7 to 1."

And TOS S2 "The Doomsday Machine":

KIRK: "...Am I correct in assuming that a fusion explosion of ninety seven megatons will result if a starship impulse engine is overloaded?"

[Bridge]

SPOCK: "No, sir. Ninety seven point eight three five megatons."

[Constellation Auxiliary Control]

KIRK: "Ninety seven point eight three five..

 

[GNDN18]

 

[Mudd]

"Query" is a rather formal word for "question," "response" is a synonym for "answer." The humor in the scene is based on T'Pring's absurd formality.

Believe it or not, the people who write these shows don't pore through old Star Trek scripts looking for vocabulary.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Yup. That's where the repeated "query" stuff came from in the pilot.

So, it's the same thing, except one hundred percent of the dialog is different?

And then they had spock give an immediate and unnecessarily precise time reference in years, months, days, and minutes as Data famously did. I guess they spared the seconds.

If you'd watched TOS, then you'd know that Spock had done that sort of precise time-telling literally decades before Data did it.

As @GNDN said, for example:

Also, others....

 

[Vlasko]

I have watched through TOS, twice. Most recently maybe five years ago or so. I was aware of Spock's mental math, but thought the "years,months,days,hours,seconds" was a Data thing. I didn't recall Spock doing that. The reason this happened is because I watched the pilot of TNG just before watching SNW. And yes, I did notice these similarities although I now understand it wasn't the basis for the new Spock's dialogue.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I wonder if the necklace T'Pring gave Spock was a radioactive tracking device

 

[Gov Kodos]

Not sure why the writers looked at Data to determine how Spock should act. But they did. They introduce spock as he uses the word "query." And Data on the bridge of the pilot of TNG using "inquiry" about the word "snoop." And then they have Spock giving a computer-like countdown of the years, days, hours, and minutes that Data did routinely to the annoyance of others.

In the pilot episode, some of the speech was fast, too. Perhaps trying to fit in everything in the script without making more cuts and edits. Such as when Spock was briefing the captain after he beamed to the ship.

They didn't, they looked at Spock and T'Pring's dialogue in Amok Time.

 

[cooleddie74]

And that original 1967 dialogue was very stiff and formal. Direct. To the point. Little room for warm feelings, however concealed.

 

[fireproof78]

And that original 1967 dialogue was very stiff and formal. Direct. To the point. Little room for warm feelings, however concealed.

It was also a very stiff and formal occasion.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I wonder if the necklace T'Pring gave Spock was a radioactive tracking device

T'Pring: Please locate Spock.
Computer: Spock is currently at the home of Leila Kalomi
T'Pring: the who now???