Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Serveaux, May 2, 2022.

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  1. VKORECTU

    VKORECTU Ensign Newbie

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    The wig was seen in Eternals or x-men i think
     
  2. Paterson

    Paterson Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    I can suspend disbelief in these cases, but in the end it is really mostly just a weird nose, not much obviously apparent "alienness" involved.
     
  3. Gov Kodos

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    People freak out over color. All sorts of things.
     
  4. Noname Given

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    That to me was one of the nice things about the episode. The audience is left to wonder which choice the world actually made ( Unlike like Berman are a TNG which would probably have stated outright whether the planet joined the Federation or not.) The ending Montage of what the aliens did in the time after First Contact show many different groups doing many different things - but it doesn't show the ultimate fate of that planet.

    They may have indeed joined the Federation, or not joined; and for all we know one or both sides could still be preparing for conflict. They just showed students being taught about it, biologists going over the observed differences between themselves and an alien visitor (Spock); engineer is attempting to reverse engineer the 1701 based on their observations and own scans; and lastly that a cargo cult type religion began after the Enterprise's visit.

    In the end they leave it up to the viewer to project or speculate what they believe probably happened after the Enterprise left, and I thought that was a nice touch.
     
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  5. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Welcome to a franchise where the weekly budget is the decider for most things. There's only so much "alienness" a character can express to another and convey a clear message that won't involve exotic non-humanoid communication and reactions.

    Not every species can be 10-C, a Calamarain or a Melkotian.
     
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  6. Tosk

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    As I originally said "Not that it shouldn't, just...unexpected."
     
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  7. Paterson

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    Well yeah, and I'd much rather have people visibly acting than have Mick Fleetwood Frozen Fish alien of the week.

    I'm just saying this is a trope and there's weirder looking actual humans than what sci-fi people somehow instantly recognize as alien.
     
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  8. cooleddie74

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    We need to hire more actors like Carel Struycken. With or without makeup he's eerie.
     
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  9. Vince A

    Vince A Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    That's a solid and insightful interpretation.

    As someone who's often been misjudged based on reasons I've never understood(physical appearance?) Arena's message always resonated with me, so to me it kind of seems like the message, post-SNW, could be interpreted as;

    "See, our instincts were right, they are hostile savages!! Always go with your first impressions!"

    But I see where you're coming from.
     
  10. Farscape One

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    Never mind the fact that he was on a starship full of, from his perspectives, completely alien beings.

    He was walking in a parking lot, and then suddenly woke up in a place he has never seen before. It looks strange to him, so he obviously thinks he was kidnapped. If you believe you are being held against your will, what's the first thing you try to do? You try to escape.

    It's as simple as that.
     
  11. Vince A

    Vince A Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    I think you might right and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Just to be clear though, I'm sure IRL the actor is as nice as they come and certainly quite attractive.
     
  12. Nyotarules

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    Maybe Pike ended it, shit happens
     
  13. Enterprise1701

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    I would think Pike of all people would tell Batel not to derail her Starfleet career when there is nothing that can be done to alter Pike's wheelchair life.
     
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  14. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    Maybe she's dead. Maybe she's with someone else.

    Jesus Christ, it's ten years away.
     
  15. cooleddie74

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    If Trek is any indication the passage of mere months can mean a completely different assignment, death or vanishing. Years just means an increased chance that she won't be a factor.
     
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    My response was not against you, but an additional thought
     
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  17. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Finally got to sit down and see this. I loved it, it's as close to the series I imagined in my head as a follow-up the the 2009 movie as can be, with a modern U.S.S. Enterprise full of likeable characters adventuring through the galaxy. I hope the quality keeps up, although it'll be awhile until I get to see more episodes.
     
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  18. Tuskin38

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    So that shot looking down at the enterprise over the city. The city is apparently made out of a mishmash of Hong Kong buildings according to a user on reddit who lives in Hong Kong.
     
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  19. Sci

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    I mean, SNW's mission statement is to be an action/adventure story, so it's never exactly going to be the most highbrow examination of politics. But installing mediators would frankly make the story a pro-colonialist story -- it would frame the Federation as being both "wiser" than the Kileyans and as having a right to exercise power over them. Pike leaving is him respecting Kiley's right to decide its own fate.

    I'm sorry, but if I'm assaulted, rendered unconscious, abducted, and wake up as an alien's prisoner, I'm going to freak out no matter how similar the aliens look to me or what color the medical bay is painted.

    Judging by her Instagram account and by her appearance on Australia's Next Top Model in 2011 (11 years ago now!), actor Jess Bush's hair is really like that. Dying it bleach blonde appears to just be her signature style.
     
  20. Vlasko

    Vlasko Ensign Red Shirt

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    Not sure why the writers looked at Data to determine how Spock should act. But they did. They introduce spock as he uses the word "query." And Data on the bridge of the pilot of TNG using "inquiry" about the word "snoop." And then they have Spock giving a computer-like countdown of the years, days, hours, and minutes that Data did routinely to the annoyance of others.

    In the pilot episode, some of the speech was fast, too. Perhaps trying to fit in everything in the script without making more cuts and edits. Such as when Spock was briefing the captain after he beamed to the ship.