Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

Peter was at least a preteen boy and possibly already 13 by the time of the events of that episode so I can picture him being about kindergarten age at the time of SNW.

 

I would hope that SNW will actually get around to saying why Sam retires from Starfleet and joins the outpost at Deneva.

It probably won't involve Jim. If Jim had had anything to do with Sam leaving Starfleet, he would have felt responsible for Sam's death in "Operation: Annihilate!".

 

‪‪I believe it’s in part inferred from the dialogue exchanged between Pike and Sam at the end of this episode:

 

^ Ah, I understand, I forgot that they ever discussed Sam's family.

And of course Chris Hemsworth is a huge star now, but...perhaps he could be persuaded to return as George Sr.?

Would be great to see all of the Kirks onscreen together. Especially since we don't know much about Prime Timeline George (other than he lived long enough to see Jim take command of the Enterprise).

 

Who said he was retired? Maybe he was on vacation or off duty idk

 

Deneva did not strike me as a vacation spot. If Sam was there, I think we can be sure it was for work.

 

And the dialogue in Operation: Annihilate says that Sam and his family were stationed on Deneva, indicating an at least somewhat “permanent” residence there.

 

Yeah, combine all that with the civilian researcher clothing and no Starfleet uniforms in sight and it's a stretch to say he was a Starfleet officer conducting research at the colony.

 

If they ever show George Kirk Sr. on any of the current Star Trek streaming series; I'm sure they would just recast the part. Bringing Hemsworth in as George Kirk Sr. would:

- Be prohibitively expensive

- Be confusing to some of the audience since they are telling everyone this is set in the Prime Star Trek Universe and not in the JJ-Verse.

 

They've recast literally everyone else. They'll have a new, affordable George Kirk.

Imagine if it was current-day Hemsworth though. Everyone would be like, jesus christ calm down, you're exploding out of your uniform, sir.

 

There's a guy on YouTube who does ASMR and nerdy reaction videos who's the spitting image of Hemsworth. Sounds Australian, too. Get him.

Don't know if he can convincingly fake an American accent but at least he'd be cheap.

 

Looking the part isn’t worth much if you can’t act. Having auditioned cosplayers I know well the possible disasters they can lead to.

 

Pike asks "how's the family?" which I took to mean he was asking about wife and kid(s) not his parents or brother. Though why I assumed that I have no idea.

 

Which means Pike probably met Aurelan and Peter and the two other sons who weren't on Deneva when their parents died.

 

Why does every one keep calling him Sam? Only Jim does that?

 

And McCoy and Aurelan. Probably some of his close friends, too.

 

More than Jim called him Sam in TOS.

 

Everybody calls him Sam. A lot gets past JTK.

 

Interesting. Really good. Not sure I agree with the cover blurb on the DVD set, "The best 'Star Trek' show in decades" (from "SlashFilm" -- is that anything like slash fiction?)

"Samuel Kirk." We know (between canon and non-canon sources) that Kirk's late brother was George Samuel "Sam" Kirk, Jr., and we know (again between canon and non-canon sources) that Kirk's father was George Samuel "Geordie" Kirk, Sr. We don't know (as of this episode) that this "Samuel Kirk" is Kirk's brother, but even if he is, not everybody in Starfleet is career Starfleet, any more than everybody in the USMC is a career Marine (My dad had only one tour of duty in the Marines, working in a supply warehouse, and was discharged honorably at the [pre-rank-realignment] rank of corporal).

A lot of confusion. And some nits to pick: Since when is the right seat of the helm/navigation console of a 23rd century starship "Ops"? And neither "The Cage" nor TOS showed the captain's quarters as a huge luxury suite.

 

I never agree with cover blurbs. I always roll my eyes at the overt marketing garbage.

Well the Cage had the ship needing to put in for repairs. I would imagine some modules were swapped for the upcoming longer term mission, especially since the Enterprise was sent away from the Klingon War to preserve some measure of Federation strength.