Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x01 - "Strange New Worlds"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Serveaux, May 2, 2022.

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  1. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    Some people, I don't know how many, have seen one or more episodes of the new series.

    Serious spoilers from here on out. If you want to have any sense of mystery at all about the premiere, absolutely don't look at this.

    I'll put a spoiler tag around things, anyway, until Thursday.

    The spoiler tags will be going away.

    Pike kicks the Prime Directive to the curb in the first episode. Just flat-out says "To Hell with the Prime Directive." He's not going to let a civilization destroy itself without trying to stop them .

    The crew consider that Starfleet is responsible for the locals having discovered the tech to do so.

    So, at the climax, when their leader rejects his entreaties not to kill her own people to put down a rebellion by saying 'You're giving me aphorisms. Not nearly so useful as having a big stick," Pike calls Enterprise to drop into low orbit and reveal itself to the entire population. And he says to the leader, "I have the biggest stick.

    The crowd at Paley went absolutely berserk at all this. Most folks were clearly thrilled and disbelieving that he'd done it.

    He gets the customary TOS slap on the wrist from Starfleet for this. Dire threats are made, and no one really tries to take his command away. There is a nice little fig leaf of an explanation for this that connects the episode to the resolving events of "Such Sweet Sorrow."

    Robert April and Sam Kirk appear. It's established in passing that Pike was April's first officer aboard Enterprise. Sam is on crew rotation aboard Enterprise in the sciences division. Pike seems to know him pretty well. The character recurs in "Children of The Comet."

    This is the best opening episode for a Trek series since the original.

    It has only a slight touch of pilot-itis, because the series opens in media res like the original. Most of the core characters have been serving aboard the ship for some time and know each other - Pike, Una, Spock, M'Benga, Ortegas.

    So the story efficiently introduces one effectively new character, La'an, and "reimagines" Chapel just as economically.

    Hemmer appears in one shot, I believe, and has no dialogue.

    Uhura is, of course, also known to the audience and we're briefly reintroduced to her.

    The producers wisely assume that nothing else about Star Trek need be explained to the audience, but do take a few moments to frame the major bit of lore (referenced in the Plot Spoiler tag, above) on which the plot turns.
     
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  2. Roald

    Roald Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Isn’t the title Strange New WorldS?
     
  3. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    I don't remember whether they show the episode titles on screen. I believe the episode title is singular. It is the story of the Federation's first contact with a single new planet.


    The actor credits use the current default, non-italicized version of the TOS logo font.
     
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  4. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Commodore Commodore

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    Sam Kirk, as in James' brother? wait is he the one the moustache in the promos?
     
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  5. tenmei

    tenmei Commodore Commodore

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    Someone said the moustache guy in the trailer is Sam, but try as I might, I can't find him - are there any decent screen caps of him around?

     
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    https://imgur.com/Gn9xgt5
     
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  7. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    ^ If you're talking about the guy with Pike and Spock on the bridge?

    Can't be. Sam was never in Starfleet.

    (and why all the spoilercode? The THREAD TITLE has a Spoilers mark in it!)
     
  8. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Commodore Commodore

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    I mean he comes from a starfleet family, so he could've joined and left between now and the events of Operation: Annihilate!
     
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  9. tenmei

    tenmei Commodore Commodore

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    Any idea of the actor?
     
  10. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    Belt and suspenders for the sake of consideration. I may edit out the tags on Thursday.
     
  11. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    1. Says who?
    2. He is. I saw him.
    3. Who cares?
     
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    I appreciate their inclusion. I’m eager to see people’s thoughts but not really looking for spoilers. Hard to resist the thread.
     
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  13. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    But there is already a spoiler tag in the thread title. Can't really miss that.
     
  14. Midquest

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    To be fair, threads with episode names in the title are usually spoiler threads, but generally not majorly spoilery until the episode drops. Someone might get burned based on precedent, so the spoiler tags seem a logical kindness.
     
  15. fireproof78

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    It's called being polite.
     
  16. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    Best to move on from this if you can.
     
  17. Markonian

    Markonian Fleet Admiral Moderator

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    I'm not going to be able to see it until it screens in my country someday.
    I'm not gonna frakkin' wait until then to learn everything that is learnable.

    Frak spoilers, fire everything!
    Is the uniform style explained? Do the extra black bands some unis have, like Kyle's and Una's, have an explanation?
    Do we see/hear about any other Starfleet vessel?
    What year is the show set in?
     
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  19. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    They didn't explain it in the Short Trek "The Trouble with Edward" (there were different uniform styles on board the Cabot - some had the black collar, some didn't), so I doubt they'll do it here.

    It's not just the episode name. There's a big red SPOILERS tag right next to the thread title.

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  20. Serveaux

    Serveaux Mediocre Old White Man Premium Member

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    No. I wouldn't expect onscreen explanations for this kind of design choice.

    Yes, we do. Una briefly commands a small science vessel, the U.S.S. Archer, with a crew of two.


    I'm not sure it's said onscreen.

    Pike does place his accident "ten years from now."
     
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