There’s nothing to ‘get over.’ You have a different opinion than I do, because I expect better than what you expect.
Starfleet Academy Starship Thread
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There’s nothing to ‘get over.’ You have a different opinion than I do, because I expect better than what you expect.
Cool. If you want to die on this hill, by all means do so. But I'm going to keep walking.
Apropos of nothing, I find it hilarious DIS season 4 showed that the 32nd century U.S.S. Janeway is not part of the modern Intrepid class, which STO renamed to Janeway class. I mean, like, why wouldn't you assign the name Janeway to the series she is so strongly associated with?
Hell, while I find it difficult to believe Starfleet Command didn't pounce on the name Janeway class as soon as she kicked the bucket of the mortal coil, I have to concede STO's naming makes much more sense.
Hell, while I find it difficult to believe Starfleet Command didn't pounce on the name Janeway class as soon as she kicked the bucket of the mortal coil, I have to concede STO's naming makes much more sense.
She got a Courage class which is quite fitting.
Again, there’s no ‘hill to die on,’ just a difference of opinion…but whatever.
I consider this conversion over.
Tell that to Arthur Morgan
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This isn't a 'it's fine when they did it in the 90s but not now' thing. it's a 'I always didn't like it' thing.
There's no difference in expectations.
He's just stating his opinion. He's not dying on any hill.
You and the others are the the ones making it into a hill.
And they must have commissioned a new USS Nog in the intervening 120 years because there was one with Starfleet in Discovery.
The re-use of legacy class designations is exactly the same as Discovery running into Voyager-J: 100 % not laziness, just a little nostalgia bait.
The Armstrong from DSC and her sister ships have never actually received a canonical designation; Owosekun asks, "is that a new Constitution?" That's it.
No, the TNG Romulans use singularities to power their warp drives. The singularity drive is explicitly a warp alternative, a completely different FTL propulsion method which seems to use singularities themselves to get from A to B.
Homage to Event Horizon (1997):
The Armstrong from DSC and her sister ships have never actually received a canonical designation; Owosekun asks, "is that a new Constitution?" That's it.
No, the TNG Romulans use singularities to power their warp drives. The singularity drive is explicitly a warp alternative, a completely different FTL propulsion method which seems to use singularities themselves to get from A to B.
Homage to Event Horizon (1997):
I think that in the past, the people in charge made a greater effort to portray Starfleet as a realistic, well-structured organization. There were occasional hiccups, of course, but overall there was a sense of oversight and internal logic. Nowadays, it often feels more casual—almost as if anything can happen simply because someone thinks it’s a cool idea, without much regard for consistency.
For example: “I’m a fan of Halloween, so let’s slap NCC-1031 on the hero ship.” Or, “I love the 23rd-century Shangri-La design, so let’s bring it into the 24th century mostly unchanged.” Then it’s described as a refit of the Titan, and on top of that, it’s given one of the most prestigious names in Starfleet—despite being described as a mediocre rust bucket. Heck, Strange New Worlds is now in its third season, yet the rank stripes of the main characters still haven’t been corrected.
For example: “I’m a fan of Halloween, so let’s slap NCC-1031 on the hero ship.” Or, “I love the 23rd-century Shangri-La design, so let’s bring it into the 24th century mostly unchanged.” Then it’s described as a refit of the Titan, and on top of that, it’s given one of the most prestigious names in Starfleet—despite being described as a mediocre rust bucket. Heck, Strange New Worlds is now in its third season, yet the rank stripes of the main characters still haven’t been corrected.
There's also this image of how a Romulan singularity is used to power warp (and still uses dilithium to regulate the power flow from the singularity itself, which is fed deuterium and anti-deuterium as reactants).
I'd agree that this version of the singularity drive is intended to function more like Event Horizon or BSG as a point-to-point method of folding space time to move an object.
Conversely, the Vulcan project SB-19 was more of a "transwarp gate" style FTL system that could work either as a catapult or transport a ship from one gate to another further away extremely quickly.
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(Page 3)I'd agree that this version of the singularity drive is intended to function more like Event Horizon or BSG as a point-to-point method of folding space time to move an object.
Conversely, the Vulcan project SB-19 was more of a "transwarp gate" style FTL system that could work either as a catapult or transport a ship from one gate to another further away extremely quickly.
That one was probably inspired by EH as well.
The similarities between EH and the sixth episode of SFA are more numerous and obvious: black hole FTL, ship and crew lost during experiment, horror
When in the past was that, exactly? The structure of Starfleet operates at the need of plot. Cutting out "Structure" that slows down the narrative.
The Bozeman's registry number is "1941" because Greg Jein worked on a film with that name. Probably more examples of homage naming in "the past" as well.
That's actually been a thing throughout all of Trek, they just did a better job of hiding it in past shows (such as taking a 4-digit date of significance to someone and then adding a 7 in front because that was the registry range of the time, just as an example)
1941 would still perfectly fit into the range of the Constitution being 1700 and the Excelsior being 2000.
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Makes perfect sense as the Bozeman is lost (moved to the future) in 2278, only a few years before TWoK (2280's). Being that the Bozeman is a Miranda-class derivative, the registry fits fine for the time period.
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