Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

[Set Harth]

I stopped trusting my opinion when I realized I liked "Spock's Brain." What the hell is wrong with me?

But he's so intelligent, who would not like his brain?

 

[Noname On A Naughty List]

The last time I did a series rewatch of Disco, I found season 1 had the tightest scripts and story arc. It helped they broke up the narrative into three sub-arcs, rather than their later achilles heel of stretching out a movie's worth of plot over 13 episodes.

I like the first two seasons way more than S3-S5.
(I was really liking S1 a lot until the lame Mirror Lorca reveal.)

 

[XCV330]

Discovery was kind of jumping into a period of history that was already interesting due to Calypso. But at first they didn't incorporate any of that when they had the chance to then made the future very.. gray. The grey lopsided uniforms, the flat designs, the blue lighting, it made many of the sets places you simply didn't want to be. Why couldn't the future be some decadent mix of rococo and aetherpunk. Anything different, really. Nope.. blue lights. Floaty nacelles. That's what we get.

There were interesting episodes from that period, quite a few, especially if you fast forward past the crying, but there were choices that could have been better. I hope they fix this. The fact that you still have to say "shields up" after Red Alert tells me its just going to be regular star trek. That's fine. I like regular star trek, I just wish the people making star trek weren't so chickenshit about it.

 

[Finngle Bells]

Maybe they still do it so the Captain (or the first officer) still feel important.

because feelings.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

looking at the clips for this show one thing is clear:

They clearly don't have Ozempic in the 32nd century, (or Gyms)

They didn't have it in the 23rd century either, Scotty clearly didn't have access to it.

 

[Elaise]

Alright, I'll ask it a different way - do you think DSC was tonally distinct from TOS, or do you think the two shows are more or less identical?

If they are different, how was this difference developed, conveyed, and presented by the DSC writers?

I think you are right in your argument in the different tones between DISCO and TOS. I have been watching TOS and it like TNG mostly sits in the middle. You can have it switch to a darker or lighter tone depending whats going on. The mudd episode even with the content still felt more middle to lighter tone.

To me TOS never really gets as dark in tone as DISCO does.

 

[SatrianiRules]

Star Trek has never done that though. Star Trek is not the Godfather, it is not Shakespeare, hell it isn't even always as progressive as MASH or Night Court. It has always done the update thing, from TMP, to TNG, to DS9 to First Contact, and onwards.

It isn't a period piece but a speculative future from a contemporary frame work.

yes, well aware

"poverty, disease, and war have all been eliminated.." Deanna in 'First Contact'

They have incorporated colloquialism in the show(s) to be sure...(e.g the cringe worthy episode of "This Way to Eden")...

But there is always an underlying motif, be it exploration, knowledge, human issues...I'd argue that without TOS, those other things would not have been as progressive as they were.

Gene shattered many glass ceilings with TOS, credit where credit is due; he made it ok to shatter those ceilings...sometimes openly: Uhura and Sulu, and the female XO in "The Cage"...to more subtle: hints at birth control in "The Mark Of Gideon"

there is a line between appeal and pandering...appeal is genuine, pandering is gratuitous

 

[SatrianiRules]

They didn't have it in the 23rd century either, Scotty clearly didn't have access to it.

no he didn't did he?

 

[Michael]

no he didn't did he?

You just can’t help yourself, can you? Warning for trolling and ignoring moderator instructions. I’ll also issue a thread ban. Comments to PM.

They didn't have it in the 23rd century either, Scotty clearly didn't have access to it.

I’m going to be charitable and assume you missed that I said this tangent was over. But again, let’s all give this topic a rest. Thank you.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

If I watch a medieval show i don't want to hear contemporary language, for example, i want to hear language that is consistent and completes the fantasy...

I love lots of medieval-ish content that is consistent with the fantasy (for instance, Game of Thrones or the Lord of the Rings).

But my favorite 'medieval' style productions also include things like the blantantly modernist A Knight's Tale or old school productions more interested in standard comedy or adventure stylings than actual medieval atmosphere like The Court Jester.

There is no such thing as a setting or world that only has one 'correct' way to produce it. You may only like one way and not the others, but one person's opinion doesn't invalidate the worth of other approaches.

 

[Set Harth]

I have no doubt that the ignorant comments about Jesse are due to nothing but brain dead homophobia.

Why would homophobia come into it?

 

[Turtletrekker]

Bait.

 

[eschaton]

Why would homophobia come into it?

Jessie is in a relationship with another woman?

 

[TRON JA307020]

I have no doubt that the ignorant comments about Jesse are due to nothing but brain dead homophobia. I mean, the person behind the comments has already shown the entire board who they really are more than once. When someone shows you who they are, you should believe them the first time.

Is Jesse an actor in this show? I havent gone completely over the entire cast list but I don't remember that name at all.