Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 4x07 - "Like Chronitons Through the Hourglass"

[Firebird]

Group Hug everyone! It will be a really touching experience!

 

[Tuskin38]

It wasn't a real episode

Yes it was.

This show is seriously testing my fandom.

Then stop watching. No show is worth that.

But the playful beings with sideburns and frock coats don't come along as often. I would think Trelane would be recognizable a couple of years later just like a flamboyant person you had an incident with would be. "Oh god, I remember him! He threw a salami at me."

The only person who knows what Trelane's human form looks like is Pike, no one else on the crew saw him this episode.

And in the Season 3 episode he was in, he was disguised the entire time, first as a Vulcan, and then as an Andorian. Only Korby saw his human form (at least I think he did).

it was just a bunch of stuff that happened and Pike had a little cry afterward.

Maybe actually pay attention to what you're watching then, because important character things did happen.

 

[Therin of Andor]

It sounds like she's there mainly to research how the crew behaves in crisis, not counsel to crew members about bereavement, daddy issues or love lives.

But she would be useful if that happened. And she already has the baseline data.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Seems McCoy has a whole bunch of mental health professionals on staff.

MCCOY [on monitor]: Oh, I'm assigning your technical aide, Captain. One of our psychiatrists does have a background in rehabilitative therapy. Doctor Noel, standing by in the transporter room now.

 

[Greg Cox]

McCoy is a main character. Additional medical personnel is strictly Needs of the Plot. Like M’Benga and Noel.

Come to think of it, McCoy did spend almost as much time on the bridge as Troi.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

McCoy was Troi in reverse; everyone could sense his hostility (against disease, injustice, and Spock).

 

[DanCPA]

Was De Kelly chosen because he was pretty?

 

[cooleddie74]

For a Silent Generation actor born in the Deep South and who was a bad guy in lots of Westerns, he was a looker.

 

[TRON JA307020]

So what's next weeks Biggly Swing? Looks like it will be more traditional Trek....I think....

Not sure. Im guessing a more serious standard ep. But I do hear rumors that we are being served another fairy tale episode this season.

 

[BillJ]

Having watched football for fifty years and loving the history behind it, has taught me what something “is” is always a moving target.

What it is today only applies to today.

 

[Dar70]

What’s this one again?

Boring

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Maybe thats how SNW should end, showing the Enterprise on some strings

Or the whole cast. Thunderbirds episode is about the only thing they haven't tried.

 

[Pauln6]

Seems McCoy has a whole bunch of mental health professionals on staff.

Ah yes - from memory, I thought he said 'one of my medical staff' or some such. Sounds like they actually had a therapist for every 100 crew. They probably spent all their time in McGivers' art classes.

 

[Elaise]

I don't think I can fully rate this without a second viewing, but I liked it far more than I thought I would. In the first ten minutes my thought was basically "Okay, it's 'Qpid', but this had better be going somewhere." And the place it went was ultimately very satisfying. Curious how it'll hold up on rewatch.

It was fun enough and seemed like it actually had something interesting to do with the concept. It feels like a shame to have so many "high concept" episodes strung together this season, but I'm not going to penalize it for that. That feels more like a season evaluation issue to me.

I see some saying it dragged, but it honestly went by pretty quickly for me. I think "Hide and Q" is far more of a drag than this one.

Incidentally, I never would've guessed Diedre Hall is seventy-eight years old. Wow.


They didn't know the show was going to be over until after filming season 4.

Not sure I could handle another viewing of this episode, it was so painful for me. Outside the ending where it felt detached from the episode. Though I completely agree with you that hide and Q was a terrible/painful episode that I never go back to unless my wife makes.

 

[Roald]

I think this episode is miles better than many initial online reactions seem to suggest... I actually think it was funny and touching at the same time, and I for one have always loved what we now refer to as 'gimmick'-episodes, so I'm very happy with the last two seasons...

That said, there is a part of me that gets why many fans are put off by the extreme week-to-week genre-shift... I know the writers had no time to course-correct season 4 (which was already filmed when season 3 started airing), but I do wonder why they said in several interviews that season 4 wouldn't be 'gimmicky' as season 3 and that it would contain more 'regular' episodes... 'cause it is now evident that that isn't the case...

 

[Elaise]

That's what I'm saying though. Until this episode decided to revisit it, to my reading, that daughter did exist and still existed. It wasn't that Pike woke up from an unreal dream. He lived an entire life, died, and then was returned to a prior moment in time in another universe to keep living another life.

But the family he created in that other life kept going, in their own universe, just without him, because he had basically died naturally of old age. Exactly as it would have happened if it had all been taking place in the prime timeline.

It resonated with me because it was exactly the wish for our real families: we get to live full lives with them, and then eventually we move on and (hopefully, barring tragedy) the younger ones keep going without us.

Going back to the story here makes this whole arc so mean and ugly. They didn't have to lean into the dark and cruel read of those events.

This episode could have just as easily leaned into the opposite. It could have confirmed the daughter lived on in her own timeline. The jumping off point could have been a classic soap return from the dead where Batel is suddenly in Pike's quarters again.

It was also such a stupid choice to tell this story through a completely false "Uhura is my lost daughter!" frame. Like, who could possibly care? There's no resonance to something that nakedly contrived. Bringing back Batel would have actually allowed some real scenes to be played.

Was it stated that it was a real life of his that just ran at a different rate of time and reality? if so I completely missed it, I thought it was just a dream that he went through.

 

[Jayson1]

Come to think of it, McCoy did spend almost as much time on the bridge as Troi.

Yet he never got a chair. In fact I I don't think their is one scene on all of Trek where he was seen sitting down anywhere on the bridge.

 

[Captain Robau]

Don't usually post too much on these type of threads, but this episode hit me in the feels. I thought it was a great character episode and a great Pike episode. I loved how they had him come face to face with his alternate lived reality. Him breaking down at the end was really poignant. This "gimmick" episode I think really worked, for me at least. Solid 7. Thanks for letting me share.

 

[milesandmiles]

I gave it a 6 because of the emotional swing in tone of the episode. Would have got at least a 7 if it weren't for that. The scene with Pike at the end was good, but not for this particular episode. You can have a fun silly Q episode, you can have a more darker or serious Q episode. But don't mix them up. But yeah, the season is short so they pile on as much emotional baggage as they can.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

See I feel the opposite I love when an episodes seems like it's just going to be silly but hides a deeper emotional resonance and takes you on a full journey.