No it isn't. La'An knows she is Romulan by the end. The error is yours in this instance. You need to watch the episode again.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x08 - "Four-And-A-Half Vulcans"
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No it isn't. La'An knows she is Romulan by the end. The error is yours in this instance. You need to watch the episode again.
I thought Una/Doug was kind of a Sinclair/Sakai thing where they just end up meeting whenever they're near one another, and Kirk being on is fine when we've already established his brother is on board, and his own ship is out of commission. Some characters just seem to have exes littered about the universe which I guess makes sense when your job is constantly on the move unless you're just dating your fellow crew.
Sam being missing every time he comes aboard is starting to become a bit of a running joke, but that bothers me more than Kirk showing up. I want them to interact more!
Sam being missing every time he comes aboard is starting to become a bit of a running joke, but that bothers me more than Kirk showing up. I want them to interact more!
Character X is nearby and drops in for a visit. Perfectly sensible.
It happens in a lot more than just Trek. A lot of shows over the decades - dramatic or comedy - have plot-convenient visits by old friends or family members who help drive or even resolve the plot.
It's called Hollywood and the art of fiction writing.
It's called Hollywood and the art of fiction writing.
She shouldn't know Romulans look like Vulcans is the point Tuskin is making. At no time does Sera look like a Romulan in the episode. Now it's possible Sera's ear joke and green blood might make La'An think Romulans and Vulcans are related.
You really didn't get how your post was actually received at all, did you?
A little late to the sarc party, but let's not do the personal stuff - either of you - in future. It's tedious.
Thank you.
One might even say "logical".
Wait, so you're saying stories don't necessarily portray every day life in a realistic manner?
My whole life has been a lie!
Yes. Yes they were. I watched every episode of both shows.
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Well, I guess I'm minority here. I had a blast, but then again I love episodes like this because it portrays the characters we know and love in a completely different light. I especially LOVED the end scene, I was in stiches
But La’An doesn’t know what a Romulan looks like, that’s my point. Sera is disguised as a human, no pointy ears.
Sera makes a comment about ‘not being used to the ears’, but La’An jumping from that comment to assuming Romulans are related to Vulcans would be quite the stretch.
So no, La’An should not know Romulans are related to Vulcans.
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If Doug can just happen to be in the area, and the shop can have a holodeck even though they're not supposed to be invented (or that advanced) yet, I think we can say La'An "just knows" what Romulans look like through some mechanism not seen on screen.
See how TV works? Anything can happen or be true because anything can happen when we're not looking!
See how TV works? Anything can happen or be true because anything can happen when we're not looking!
Looking at the poll results you’re not in the minority. Majority of votes are 5 or higher
The people disliking it are just more vocal than the ones who liked it
I generally like the tone of the episode. It’s what “What is Starfleet?” should have been, a slice of life episode.
I do not like the genetic determinism aspect. DS9 tore such thinking to shreds years ago. Maybe it’s just an inherent fault of prequels, since this was done in ENT with Augments too. But it would be far easier to digest that Pike, Uhura and Chapel just do not seriously engage with Vulcan culture and fell back onto stereotypes – the meditation, mind melds and being obsessed with logic – out of fear of never turning back into their former selves.
Why does La’an having an Augment background automatically trigger Romulan-like behaviours? If having a genetically enhanced background automatically meant someone were bad, then Bashir would have turned heel many seasons ago. And it would also imply that Emperor Georgiou is an Augment herself considering how evil she is, even for a mirror universe character.
Wouldn’t it be fairer to suggest that being manipulative is an integral part of being Vulcan? Like good and evil are necessary for being human, as seen in “The Enemy Within?” So, it actually adds some interesting commentary about Spock and Vulcans as a whole. And what it actually means to be Vulcan.
I do not like the genetic determinism aspect. DS9 tore such thinking to shreds years ago. Maybe it’s just an inherent fault of prequels, since this was done in ENT with Augments too. But it would be far easier to digest that Pike, Uhura and Chapel just do not seriously engage with Vulcan culture and fell back onto stereotypes – the meditation, mind melds and being obsessed with logic – out of fear of never turning back into their former selves.
Why does La’an having an Augment background automatically trigger Romulan-like behaviours? If having a genetically enhanced background automatically meant someone were bad, then Bashir would have turned heel many seasons ago. And it would also imply that Emperor Georgiou is an Augment herself considering how evil she is, even for a mirror universe character.
Wouldn’t it be fairer to suggest that being manipulative is an integral part of being Vulcan? Like good and evil are necessary for being human, as seen in “The Enemy Within?” So, it actually adds some interesting commentary about Spock and Vulcans as a whole. And what it actually means to be Vulcan.
Cleary, T’Pring saw Beto’s documentary. And Spock new relationship with La’an. I guess that mean that Beto nearly got Spock killed.Stonn. How else did he get T'Pring?
Or different cultures have different beauty standards. Have we forgotten how on TNG, Worf found Antedians attractive, while Lwaxana was repulsed?
Or Spock just misunderstood since he doesn’t know about the Romulans yet
Yeah plus he probably wasn't a brand new graduate. You don't send a total novice to be CMO. He probably qualified at 25 and was talented and idealistic enough to want the posting after a couple of years. Plus, he'd expect to have few patients. The Starfleet crew was tiny.It was
An MD is just a professional degree, similar to an MSc, usually completed today in about 8 years.
The show suffers horribly from small universe syndrome, but I also find it hard to complain when it involves Kirk. Partly because I like Wesley's Kirk a lot and think he improves any episode, but also because it's genuinely funny at this point how half-arsed the excuses to have him show up are. They might as well capitalise on it and make it a running joke; every week Kirk arrives with increasingly vague explanations as to why he happens to be nearby.
Lol. Don't come for TMP bro! Only STARSHIP in 'interception range'. Don't forget, V'Ger was travelling really, really fast so any ships behind it would be unable to catch up in the time available.
Plus Earth has automatic defences in the Solar System. It doesn't need starships for defence.
The reason why I can give TMP a pass and not Trek09 is because the writers sat down and calculated travel times (it was likely hadn't decided exactly how far away Klingon space was yet but they also weren't specific about how far away Epsilon IX was from Klingon space so they could fudge the times there).
In Trek09, they overtake Nero at warp 4, so any ship travelling at Warp 7 or more could probably have caught up to him. If they had known his ship was that slow, it would have been better to send an emergency code via subspace relay to an undamaged ship which could reach the fleet sooner and then for the fleet to head back to Earth at emergency warp. But his ship isn't that slow because of how quickly he reaches Vulcan after leaving Klingon space. This one doesn't really make sense because it contradicts itself. Why DOES he travel so slowly to Earth? He's like the little dude aiming guns at Yavin in Star Wars.
TWoK doesn't really make sense at the end because they are fleeing at sub-light and a nebula would take years to reach.
TFF doesn't make sense because it would take years to get to the super massive black hole at the centre of the galaxy. They could have used some other thing similar to the Necrit Expanse instead.
STVI doesn't really make sense because the travel times are condensed to a really short time frame and the peace conference would realistically take months to organise.
So yeah, lots of silly stuff but TMP is not so implausible. They should have mentioned defences in the outer solar system though.
I see.
I don't know if it was mentioned, and I'm too lazy to read 30 pages. But I rewachted it and I have questions now regarding Doug, how does he not know that a birthday party is a yearly event? OR noticed humans use contractions? He must not have been in long relationship with Una
I'm not sure if the post-credits are meant to be taken seriously.
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