And they were some of my favorite episodes of M*A*S*H. The interview with Father Mulcahy still gives me a lump in my throat whenever I recall it.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x07 - "What Is Starfleet?"
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It's probably not usually for public consumption and wouldn't normally be investigated unless, as in this instance, it was asked for by Beto.
Just like the thousands of hours of police body camera footage isn't normally made available to the public.
This was a 10 episode for me.
Dragon imagery comes in all shapes and sizes and space dragons are not something new, at least not to me anyway.
There's a board game called SPACE DRAGONS ...
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Space Dragons
A trick-taking game in which adventurers try to catch space dragons—or perhaps not?
Maybe Dragons or Dragon-like equivalents look different when viewing through the lense of the local alien culture?
Still probably less empty space than the Enterprise-D.
It works perfect to contain the interiors we saw is TOS. All you have to do is make the Excelsior about 600 meters, about the same length as the Ambassador, and everything fits.
We know they have camera from "Court Martial". what we learned here is that they don't record all the time, and are triggered by alert status. We can assume it films all the time but only saves the data after yellow alert, probably a minute before as well, like modern security cameras can.
Why do you think the crew quarters are so big?
Probably why it jumped up to 400+ by the time Kirk took over command and went out on his first 5 year mission.
Was probably even suggested by Captain Pike.
You got to admit, those are even larger & more luxurious than the crew quarters we saw on the Enterprise-D.
Most Officers in any IRL Navy would kill to have such nice quarters on their vessels.
Wow, another winner! The show has rescued itself from merely being good, to an upward trend to excellent again like previous seasons.
As of late, I've been seeing more people posting on social media saying the Federation is imperialist, or not democratic, that Starfleet is an enforcement arm.
It is wonderful to question yourself. Nice going Star Trek. This is where checks and balances come in, and do we get a stasifactory answer?
I think we do. We get the normal line: Exploration force that doubles as a military one in time of need. It's a "combined service" as Kirk said in TOS., but more importantly, we get a personal answer that connects with the questioner: Yes, Starfleet is people, and what a nicely acted and evocative group of people this is to engage our emotions so. The ending was moving.
I would also like to compliment the episode on an excellent use of A and B stories that the prev era often fumbled.
Thats a 9 out of 10 SNW.
Keep it up!
As of late, I've been seeing more people posting on social media saying the Federation is imperialist, or not democratic, that Starfleet is an enforcement arm.
It is wonderful to question yourself. Nice going Star Trek. This is where checks and balances come in, and do we get a stasifactory answer?
I think we do. We get the normal line: Exploration force that doubles as a military one in time of need. It's a "combined service" as Kirk said in TOS., but more importantly, we get a personal answer that connects with the questioner: Yes, Starfleet is people, and what a nicely acted and evocative group of people this is to engage our emotions so. The ending was moving.
I would also like to compliment the episode on an excellent use of A and B stories that the prev era often fumbled.
Thats a 9 out of 10 SNW.
Keep it up!
Empty? Or crammed with science labs and other equipment?
We know a huge portion of the lower decks is engineering/shuttle bay.
And I'm not surprised that, on such long missions, the find the crew is more mentally stable with larger quarters.
10
I went into this thinking I would not like it much because I'm not a fan of mockumentary type stories/episodes, but I came away really enjoying it and thought it was a great episode.
Loved:
- Everyone really played the tension and uncertainty in this whole situation really well.
- M'Benga, wow - Babs Olusanmokun really turned in a wonderful performance of the character here in the way he answered the documentarian's questions.
- The organic manner in which everything unfolded from the crew discovering the lifeform was intelligent and the way they ultimately discovered to communicate and find out the lifeform's POV. It wasn't just rote 'Star Trek alien contact' - there was real danger to the characters involved and it was shown and handled really well.
- The fact that they didn't use the 'Evil Admiral' trope and have someone in the Starfleet Admiralty ordering Pike to just bring the lifeform back to Starfleet for further study.
- The resolution. Loved the forceful manner in which Pike informed the alien Captain that the Federation would be protecting the moon; and Starfleet would be enforcing it. The implied 'threat' of making an enemy of the Federation came across very well.
- Uhura's summation of Starfleet: "It's us, the people. We are Starfleet."
Minor Nitpick:
- I don't think the Documentarian's motive made a lot of sense in that, yeah, he feels Starfleet somehow damaged his relationship with his sister because it's some type of semi-malevolent 'colonial entity' in service to the 'state'. Yeah, that seemed an over-reaction. Had she been lost during the Klingon war or during some other incident, yeah, but she's still here and if he has a problem, yeah, he could still talk it out with her.
- The reason the lifeform did what it did and why it involved the Enterprise the way it did were not well explained in the execution of the story. In thinking about it, I think the lifeform's motivation was:
Yes, it wanted to die, but with what the aliens did to it, it was still too "under their control" in some way that it thought they would find a way to stop it and bring in back, but if it was able to involve these outsiders and get them to understand, they could shepherd it to the system's Sun where it could end its suffering in peace without interference from the race that modified it.
Overall a great episode.
Again a 10 from me.
I went into this thinking I would not like it much because I'm not a fan of mockumentary type stories/episodes, but I came away really enjoying it and thought it was a great episode.
Loved:
- Everyone really played the tension and uncertainty in this whole situation really well.
- M'Benga, wow - Babs Olusanmokun really turned in a wonderful performance of the character here in the way he answered the documentarian's questions.
- The organic manner in which everything unfolded from the crew discovering the lifeform was intelligent and the way they ultimately discovered to communicate and find out the lifeform's POV. It wasn't just rote 'Star Trek alien contact' - there was real danger to the characters involved and it was shown and handled really well.
- The fact that they didn't use the 'Evil Admiral' trope and have someone in the Starfleet Admiralty ordering Pike to just bring the lifeform back to Starfleet for further study.
- The resolution. Loved the forceful manner in which Pike informed the alien Captain that the Federation would be protecting the moon; and Starfleet would be enforcing it. The implied 'threat' of making an enemy of the Federation came across very well.
- Uhura's summation of Starfleet: "It's us, the people. We are Starfleet."
Minor Nitpick:
- I don't think the Documentarian's motive made a lot of sense in that, yeah, he feels Starfleet somehow damaged his relationship with his sister because it's some type of semi-malevolent 'colonial entity' in service to the 'state'. Yeah, that seemed an over-reaction. Had she been lost during the Klingon war or during some other incident, yeah, but she's still here and if he has a problem, yeah, he could still talk it out with her.
- The reason the lifeform did what it did and why it involved the Enterprise the way it did were not well explained in the execution of the story. In thinking about it, I think the lifeform's motivation was:
Yes, it wanted to die, but with what the aliens did to it, it was still too "under their control" in some way that it thought they would find a way to stop it and bring in back, but if it was able to involve these outsiders and get them to understand, they could shepherd it to the system's Sun where it could end its suffering in peace without interference from the race that modified it.
Overall a great episode.
Again a 10 from me.
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I was very positively surprised by this episode.
Like - I HATE the "fake documentary" style in shows where it doesn't belong. It's okay in "the office", just not a fan of it, but anytime a "normal" series introduces a filmmaker & this style it usually sucks hard.
So I was dreading this episode once I learnt it's gonna' be such.
However - I was then completely blown away how earnest & emotional it was. And somehow emotionally "honest" - dramatic things happen in this episode, even more dramatic in its backstory - and yet it's a "slice of life" for the characters. And not in a fun romp (like "Data's day"), or an action episode like last week's. Somehow everything felt very "real". And I think it's mostly down to how the characters navigate these emotionally complex situation(s) in such an honest way.
I have to say, if I didn't knew this was the "fake documentary" episode I might have liked it less, by being negatively surprised.
As I knew before this gimmick was coming - and was dreading it - I was completely caught by surprise by the actual story.
So - I cannot grade this episode, as my enjoyment was so much informed by my expectations - I can just say I enjoyed it quite a bit, and way more than I expected!
(Btw I'm dreading next week's episode as well - I usually hate "transporter mutation hijinks" as well
)
Like - I HATE the "fake documentary" style in shows where it doesn't belong. It's okay in "the office", just not a fan of it, but anytime a "normal" series introduces a filmmaker & this style it usually sucks hard.
So I was dreading this episode once I learnt it's gonna' be such.
However - I was then completely blown away how earnest & emotional it was. And somehow emotionally "honest" - dramatic things happen in this episode, even more dramatic in its backstory - and yet it's a "slice of life" for the characters. And not in a fun romp (like "Data's day"), or an action episode like last week's. Somehow everything felt very "real". And I think it's mostly down to how the characters navigate these emotionally complex situation(s) in such an honest way.
I have to say, if I didn't knew this was the "fake documentary" episode I might have liked it less, by being negatively surprised.
As I knew before this gimmick was coming - and was dreading it - I was completely caught by surprise by the actual story.
So - I cannot grade this episode, as my enjoyment was so much informed by my expectations - I can just say I enjoyed it quite a bit, and way more than I expected!
(Btw I'm dreading next week's episode as well - I usually hate "transporter mutation hijinks" as well
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I thinks it's fine for your kids. There's one short Sickbay bed scene where an alien pilot dies due to radiation that's a bit 'messy' per se - but it wasn't any gorier than stuff they've occasionally done in the TNG show era.
This Spock is not the later Spock of TOS.
Pike knows who Spock's family is. Spock has also probably told Pike of various Vulcan traditions, including Kunat Kalife.
Spock is open with pretty much everyone in 2260 and IS exploring his Human side more fully.
So yeah, as his point I have no issues with Spock being willing to share such a story.
And yes, just a few years later that will REALLY start to change as evidenced in TOS S2 Amok Time and Journey To Babel but at this point, he's NOT that Spock yet.
Glad to see all the positive reactions here..! Am genuinely surprised by the hate for SNW season 3 and this episode in particular online... Even Jessie Gender is calling this episode 'a failure of ST'... Glad that the BBS is mostly a place of positivity and love for ST..!
So he's the Spock of WNMHGB who hasn't become as open with his new captain, as he was with his previous one.
Really would be interesting to see how Kirk and Spock develop and become the eventual compatriots that we saw in TOS.
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