It has been said a few times. I get why it would be at this time but it was never stated it was in TOS.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x07 - "What Is Starfleet?"
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Whilst it wasn't as strong as some other epiisodes this season, I still liked it.
Just a shame it was so short.
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Just a shame it was so short.
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Seriously, what is with the running times this season? Consistently, the episodes have been good but not great, and the reason is that they feel too rushed, or overstuffed, or a key aspect is not sufficiently explored. The problem has repeatedly been "the episode needs 5 - 10 more minutes of material to feel complete", and we have episode after episode that's around 5 - 10 minutes shorter than the previous norm. It's so frustrating.
I thought this one was the same. Lots of good stuff here, I liked a lot about it and thought greatness was within its grasp, but it ultimately doesn't get there because key pieces of the story are missing. The climactic emotional reversal comes out of nowhere and hasn't been set up even a little bit. The way into the documentary needed to involve and explore Erica's character and their sibling relationship, if the big reveal at the end is going to be that Beto's slanted take was all about his conflict over her injury.
Which I don't think was even mentioned in the "documentary" beforehand, was it? Or if it was, it was just barely. That would be such a baffling resolution for the "viewers."
And I really can't tell whether the lack of confidence is warranted.
Exactly this. I kept thinking how impressed I was on a technical level, but I wasn't being emotionally transported.
I thought this one was the same. Lots of good stuff here, I liked a lot about it and thought greatness was within its grasp, but it ultimately doesn't get there because key pieces of the story are missing. The climactic emotional reversal comes out of nowhere and hasn't been set up even a little bit. The way into the documentary needed to involve and explore Erica's character and their sibling relationship, if the big reveal at the end is going to be that Beto's slanted take was all about his conflict over her injury.
Which I don't think was even mentioned in the "documentary" beforehand, was it? Or if it was, it was just barely. That would be such a baffling resolution for the "viewers."
It's becoming a bit weird at this point. They're clearly avoiding writing for her. It feels like they just don't have confidence in her as a performer, so they don't give her anything beyond the same one note again and again.
And I really can't tell whether the lack of confidence is warranted.
Exactly this. I kept thinking how impressed I was on a technical level, but I wasn't being emotionally transported.
Starfleet obviously has military protocols. It has military ranks, it has military punishments (the brig, confinement to quarters for defying orders.) Its security forces grew out of the Military Assault Command Operations. M’Benga was “Special Operations.” La’An likely is as well. They trained together. Starfleet likely grew out of NASA, a government agency with a civilian mission that collaborates closely with and draws many of its astronauts from the United States Air Force and the United States Space Force. Just as NASA collaborates with their counterparts in other governments, Earth-based Starfleet collaborated with corresponding organizations of other member planets. Starfleet star ships are tasked with patrolling and defending the Federation and its colonies and sometimes transporting colonists.
A nitpick, but did anyone else just not believe Spock would tell such a vulnerable childhood story in a documentary interview, for public consumption?
The direction in this really could not have been better. On a technical level, I've never seen this fake documentary thing done so well. You could tell so much careful thought had gone into the camera placement and all of that.
The direction in this really could not have been better. On a technical level, I've never seen this fake documentary thing done so well. You could tell so much careful thought had gone into the camera placement and all of that.
Not the first time this has been mentioned in the show
BTW why is Captain Marie Batel still on the Enterprise? What is the in universe reason she is not under Starfleet Medical supervision?
She's still on "Sick Leave" given that the treatment that was applied to her is relatively new & untested.
They're still observing her for "a while" to see what happens.
Given that Chris is her SO (Significant Other), that's the closest thing in StarFleet to family that she has.
M'Benga is the CMO on the FlagShip of the Federation, also the one who devised the treatment.
Who else is better to supervise than the guy who came up with the treatment to observe her?
Number One: Did Beto ask us about Section 31?
Pike: Nope. They were openly running around only a few years back, with black badges, kidnapping Spock, evil starships and all that. You think that would've been the first thing Expose Ortegas would've beeen asking us about, but no, he probably doesn't even know about them. Some hack he is.
As a pointed message to Sarek and Amanda and to the family of his former childhood friend and other Vulcans who disparaged his humanity, I can believe it. It’s very passive aggressive and very human. Sarek won’t talk to him. This is how Spock will talk to Sarek.
The Menagerie already showed us that the TOS Enterprise had internal cameras.
That was great, a 9 from me.
Three really solid episodes in a row, keep it up , SNW! Pretty much no silly, goofy stuff this week. All drama.
(Wait, next week is 'everyone becomes Vulcans'? Oh , dear)
Three really solid episodes in a row, keep it up , SNW! Pretty much no silly, goofy stuff this week. All drama.
(Wait, next week is 'everyone becomes Vulcans'? Oh , dear)
When a writer creates a character they give that character motivation which usually includes the character's personal deeply held beliefs. If I write a character who strongly believes abortion is wrong I need to imbue that character with sincere, abiding reasons for that that belief even if I myself disagree.
Yeah, the colonizer line really stood out to me. It felt like the writer injecting some modern politics into the episode. I do think the ending does redeem the episode somewhat. Obviously, the documentary concludes that starfleet is not evil. Although, I feel like the message that it is the people who make starfleet good to be a bit simplistic and corny. A lot of the episode felt like a US military recruitment ad with messages about being a family, serving a greater cause and finding purpos
Also, that has been Star Trek's modus operandi re: modern day issues since it began.
I liked that Beto had an overt agenda and also an underlying agenda of which he was barely aware. It made him a real person. Not a particular writer's mouthpiece.
That was one of the finest hours of Star Trek I’ve ever watched. And I don’t just mean Strange New Worlds. I mean the entire frakking franchise.
This 61-year-old Trekkie (a Trekker for 51 years and counting) firmly believes that the Great Bird of the Galaxy himself would have been proud of this episode. I am confident that “What Is Starfleet” will be showing up in top 10 fan favorite lists in the coming years.
That was magnificent.
This 61-year-old Trekkie (a Trekker for 51 years and counting) firmly believes that the Great Bird of the Galaxy himself would have been proud of this episode. I am confident that “What Is Starfleet” will be showing up in top 10 fan favorite lists in the coming years.
That was magnificent.
Yeah, that kind of startled me. Also it was a disturbing confession.
Except not in the turbolifts for some reason since people are always stopping them to have private conversations that no one else is supposed to know about.
M*A*S*H* did this documentary format with similar effect.
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