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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x07 - "What Is Starfleet?"

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Wow, really loved this one..! After my wife and I bingewatched most of The Rookie, I was actually not looking foreward to a 'documentary style' episode (which The Rookie has done in more than one way multiple times), but I was sincerely impressed by the great story and the documentary style actually fit this episode perfectly. I'm a sucker for 'misunderstood creatures' episodes; I loved 'Devil In The Dark', and the Tardigrade storyline at the beginning of Discovery's season 1, and this one felt along those lines. It really was so fitting that both Spock and Uhura were the ones stepping up for this creature. All in all, lovely episode..!
 
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The Jikaru looked a lot like Dark Soul's Moonlight Butterfly. I guess since Jikaru means "starlight" in the Lutani language this one is the Starlight Butterfly

"Esper" mention!!!

hah when the FOIA disclaimer popped up at the beginning I was waiting for the [Redactions]. Very interesting to put all of M'Benga's sins out in the open like this wonder where it goes.

So they flat out mention the Gorn Hegemony in a publicly released documentary? Guess Kirk never caught this one. M'Benga must've told him to skip it.

In-ship security cameras!? OK the 'SNW isn't canon' people might have a point! :p

Uhura looked so hurt in that scene with Beto-- I think I hate him now.

I feel like every time we see a shuttle in SNW it's the Galileo.

I guess everyone forgives Beto-- not me though.

Good ending, good episode. "The difference between a starship and a warship is its people" is a great message and I think it's a good answer to the "is Starfleet a military" question.
 
They missed an opportunity interviewing others, especially Pelia, to see what they thought of Starfleet. 37 minutes is too short. Budgetary reasons?
 
I liked the actual storyline of this episode, but I'm not convinced the framing device really added much beyond some easy dialogue for the confessionals and another gimmick to try out. (And a smattering of clumsy exposition in some of the "secretly filming" bits.)

To be clear, this gimmick was arguably more justified than some of the ones they've done but if the story could be told exactly the same without it... Though it was probably too thin to support a 'normal' episode without additional material. The ep was so short as it was.

TL;DR Thumbs up with some reservations.
 
I found it very frustrating at first. This is so typical of our times to "I have an agenda, and now I'll prove it" approach to a "documentary". But I won't hold it against the episode, because I'm sure that was the point.

I knew how this approach would end, and it ended exactly as I expected.

And the story under the documentary was very Trek.

My fave episode this season. I gave it 10.
 
I'll give it an 8. I didn't quite dig the "pretentious student filmmaker with an agenda" angle but it seems he learned something by the end. The nerd in me liked seeing things like the security camera names and things.

Um... Was the creature very large or the star very small?

Overall an 8, though. I did like it.
 
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Here we have some answers that still don't solve the eternal question:

Primarily explorers...


...but with military protocols

I don't know why this answer is unsatisfactory. Do people expect a black and white answer where Starfleet is either 100% military in which case it is always an armed ship that goes around blasting stuff or it is 100% an explorer in which case it is always an unarmed science vessel? Can't it be a little of both? I think it makes sense for the answer to be more grey, that Starfleet is primarily explorers but that they also have weapons and military rules because space is dangerous and it would be naive to think you can explore without the ability to fight sometimes. The reality is that starfleet serves a dual function, to both explore and defend. And defending starfleet's interests will have a necessary military component. But warfare is not what starfleet prefers.

I do not like this episode. It's probably better than the Holodeck episode, but this episode would have been a lot more interesting without the documentary format, and I just got to the part about Starfleet being colonizers and I just have to roll my eyes. This is probably getting a 4 or 5 unless the back half makes up for this somehow.

I feel like they did the documentary format because so many others show feel like it is a "cool" format to do an episode. It is a way to present a story in a different way. And when you are trying to pose a question and provide a "message", it can be effective.

Yeah, the colonizer line really stood out to me. It felt like the writer injecting some modern politics into the episode. I do think the ending does redeem the episode somewhat. Obviously, the documentary concludes that starfleet is not evil. Although, I feel like the message that it is the people who make starfleet good to be a bit simplistic and corny. A lot of the episode felt like a US military recruitment ad with messages about being a family, serving a greater cause and finding purpose.
 
Possibly one of the best episodes of Trek ever made - shades of Heroes from SG1

Great presentation and way of getting to know the characters more

Shows the best of Starfleet element too and how they work to be the best of us and make the galaxy a better place.
 
I respected this episode a lot more than I enjoyed it. It opened very, very weak, but it closed quite well - something which I am sure was by design to show Beto's growth as a documentarian. Several levels to consider here, so we'll start at the bottom and work our way out.

The actual crisis within universe was a pretty classic, by-the-numbers Trek conundrum, very similar to a number of early TNG stories in particular. The ship interacts with what's first considered a dumb animal, and then realizes over the course of the episode it's a sentient being with its own wants and desires, and the initial orders were something that they not only cannot follow with a clean conscience, but that the original mission must be aborted. I liked that Starfleet (off camera) gave Pike the okay to shift the mission - it helped showcase that Beto's starting precept (that Starfleet was a military like any other) was in fact a flawed assertion. The episode managed to weave every regular cast member into the story pretty well as well. I liked they brought up Spock's "esper" abilities (one of the weird aspects of early TOS the later shows more or less forgot about), and I also liked that Uhura was given another shot at a "first contact" story. They went out looking for new life, and they found it. And the episode gives us our longest, best look at Ortegas - though it seems she's frankly not that deep of a character. TBH, she comes across as an average Jane on a ship of super-geniuses here.

The second layer here is the framing within Beto's documentary footage, and this is mixed, though I think it's on purpose. Beto is frankly an amateur, and it shows. The use of quick pans and weird angles for no particular reason are very jarring at the beginning of the episode, and get less so as he grows into his work. There is essentially zero musical accompaniment until about halfway through, when Beto apparently realizes he should start including a soundtrack. The start of the episode is very, very rough because it's all interview footage, where we're repeatedly told things, rather than shown them. But lots and lots of documentaries work this way, so I gave it a chance. I'm glad I did, because man, the story (and Beto as a filmmaker) grew.

The most "meta" aspect here is the character journey of Beto himself. He starts the story a cynic regarding both Starfleet and the Federation, for reasons that first appear unclear. More than once, I was left wondering why Starfleet would (freedom of information act or not) allow such an obvious hatchet job to go forward. But as he realizes that the system generally works - that it's responsive to real ethical concerns, and can pivot as new data comes in - his opinion changes, and he realizes how much of his initial framing was due to bias. In an odd way, he becomes the subject of the documentary, not the passive interviewer he intended.

There's a lot of brilliant stuff here, and the episode is great once it really gets rolling, with a conclusion that made me feel a feeling for sure. That said, we had to suffer through an incredibly rough (on purpose) first act to get there. In the end it would have been more enjoyable (albeit much more conventional) if we were just watching Beto make the documentary, rather than actually seeing the story through his personal camerawork.

I'm glad they took this risk. Hopefully, Trek is done with this for a few decades now.
 
Bit of a boring episode but I did appreciate that they used the full screen of the tv. I hate tv shows using the movie aspect ratio.
 
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