Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x07 - "What Is Starfleet?"
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Well, forget what I originally said because those last 15 minutes made this episode jump up in quality in a big way. I still have to doc it for some of the camera angles and editing (And I wonder if this episode could have brought home the same point with Beto without the Documentary format, but at least we got more insights into Ortegas) but this episode got emotional and I misjudged it. Those final 13 minutes made this episode jump from a 5 to an 8, and we even got the proper theme song at the end. The Jikaru was a beautiful creature and what happened to it was so sad.
I can't remember the last time an episode really just became great in the last 10-15 minutes. Maybe it could have benefited from being longer, but I was wrong, I'm sorry, and after last week's very Trekkien episode, we got two in a row with this week. I'm actually impressed and a little surprised.
I can't remember the last time an episode really just became great in the last 10-15 minutes. Maybe it could have benefited from being longer, but I was wrong, I'm sorry, and after last week's very Trekkien episode, we got two in a row with this week. I'm actually impressed and a little surprised.
I mean, DS9 tackled that subject too
DS9 was much more interesting and didn't have a documentary format. But then read my second post.
Things improved towards the end, but this one overall left me kinda cold. It wasn’t bad, nor was it that good. Adding together the frenetic cutting that felt like Jack Webb’s “machine gun cutting” on steroids lands this around a 6.
Very disappointing after the two best episodes of the season the last couple weeks.
Very disappointing after the two best episodes of the season the last couple weeks.
Is it me, or does the 203 crew count feel kind of low for the USS Enterprise being that big @ 442.6 meters?
For those who care about lengths
Have they any idea the shitstorm they caused for the next several decades putting something like that on screen? Hell, even I'm like "that's too big.."
Not really. Solves the various sizing issues and still looks good beside other ships.
Hi BBSers,
As mentioned in previous episode threads, my family and I like to watch new Star Trek together, but I always check here first to make sure there isn't anything inappropriate for a 10YO (like heavy gore, or upsetting themes like child death- for calibration, the episodes we've skipped are 1.6, 1.9, 2.8, 3.3 & 3.5).
Could the good folks of the BBS please give me a (spoiler-free) heads up if there's anything too much for this ep? Thanks!
As mentioned in previous episode threads, my family and I like to watch new Star Trek together, but I always check here first to make sure there isn't anything inappropriate for a 10YO (like heavy gore, or upsetting themes like child death- for calibration, the episodes we've skipped are 1.6, 1.9, 2.8, 3.3 & 3.5).
Could the good folks of the BBS please give me a (spoiler-free) heads up if there's anything too much for this ep? Thanks!
I thought this one was really good. The documentary style worked for me. I liked the earnest young film maker Beto trying to get the scoop, the truth, jumping on the colonizer angle, the military angle. Yes, he had an agenda but not unreasonable questions for a documentary journalist - or me who has loved Star Trek from its inception.
I was getting petty worried about Spock. That unsettling story about self-harm and then thinking he might have a stroke or something.
Uhura was awesome. Erica got to tell some of her own story. M'Benga was troubled, unsettled. This was very much and ensemble piece.
I was getting petty worried about Spock. That unsettling story about self-harm and then thinking he might have a stroke or something.
Uhura was awesome. Erica got to tell some of her own story. M'Benga was troubled, unsettled. This was very much and ensemble piece.
I think your kid would be okay with this one.
I’ve only really enjoyed two of the episodes this season and this is one of them. It’s superior to the holodeck episode, which I also enjoyed. As a former journalist, I identified strongly with Beto. I was kicked out of more than one meeting or courtroom and faced with countless people who did not want me in the room. It isn’t much fun except when it is. Beto was asking the right questions and he obviously did what he needed to do to tell that story, including digging deep into the backgrounds of the crew. No, it was not only for his personal reasons. Starfleet has some cracks in its foundation.
I like the character nuggets.
Spock as a child, out in a desert trying to excise his human half. We already knew Sarek was a terrible father. Just where the hell was Amanda and why did she allow this to happen to her children?
It’s nice to see La’an joining Spock in meditation.
I like the character nuggets.
Spock as a child, out in a desert trying to excise his human half. We already knew Sarek was a terrible father. Just where the hell was Amanda and why did she allow this to happen to her children?
It’s nice to see La’an joining Spock in meditation.
I'm fine with it.
The TOS & TMP Connie are different ships, in a different era, in a different timeline as far as I'm concerned.
This Timelines version of the SNW Connie is different, and that's perfectly fine by me.
I'm just worried that it's undercrewed at 203 people for a 442.6 meter long Connie.
USS Voyager had 150 and is a slightly shorter vessel at 343.0 meters and is in the 24th century.
It feels like the SNW Connie needs a extra 100 or 200 more crew members to be properly staffed.
This is a difficult one to evaluate because it's a perfectly fine example of the pseudo documentary trope, but I don't like the trope very much. The only time it's ever worked for me was District 9, and that's because it was only used for the bullshit MNU wrap-arounds, where the "authentic" documentary filming style called attention to how fake it all was.
That doesn't really work for a Star Trek or a Stargate, or even a Battlestar Galactica, where we're (supposed to be) invested in the sincerity of the characters and premise. To me it just adds an unnecessary layer of artiface where suspension of disbelief is important.
So. Anyway. It was fine. Better than the first four episodes of the season and better than The Serene Squall or The Elysian Kingdom. But that's about it.
That doesn't really work for a Star Trek or a Stargate, or even a Battlestar Galactica, where we're (supposed to be) invested in the sincerity of the characters and premise. To me it just adds an unnecessary layer of artiface where suspension of disbelief is important.
So. Anyway. It was fine. Better than the first four episodes of the season and better than The Serene Squall or The Elysian Kingdom. But that's about it.
An alien with medium rare wounds dies, but no excessive gore. A beautiful creature commits suicide though
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