Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x07 - "What Is Starfleet?"

[IMC Headquarters]

ALIEN PATIENT: Axel, you on a coffee break!



M'BENGA: By Grabthar's Hammer, by the Suns of Warvan, you shall avenged.



ALIEN PATIENT: Think I'll go into hibernation mode until I heal. I hope they don't do anything stupid like wrap me in a flag and slide me off the ship.

 

[Fantasy Lover]

As someone who grew up in Belgium where the army is a joke and not as massive as the USA, this was interesting. Since the Russian army invaded Ukraine, I started to hate the army. At what point is shooting innocent civilians okay?

Especially to satisfy the ego of one men. Just following orders isn't an excuse, Nuremberg proved that. But what's happening in Gaza is even worse, schooting at hungry people to the point that it's preferable to let them die of starvation is horrible. And we're powerless to stop it, and no punishment is given because we need to investigate first IF they're actually crimes against humanity WHILE IT'S EVIDENCE IS ON THE FUCKING NEWS EVERYDAY!!!

So yeah, I liked the difficult questions Beto asked. But I HATED it that he turned out to have a secret agenda, that he wasn't actually criticising starfleet AND that at the end he was like "following orders even when you know it's bad is good uwu" no you spineless piece of shit, it isn't. You're just swallowing the propaganda. If it wasn't for that twist/reveal, I'd give it a 10. But because of that, I'm giving it a 9

 

[Akiraprise]

Yep. Avoiding a gaffe like "Flatlined" should be a no-brainer.

I was wondering if anyone else had picked up on that.
I don't think any medical diagnostic equipment would be programmed to say or display that.

 

[Noname Given]

I was wondering if anyone else had picked up on that.
I don't think any medical diagnostic equipment would be programmed to say or display that.

That's just AI in the 23rd century.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

I was wondering if anyone else had picked up on that.
I don't think any medical diagnostic equipment would be programmed to say or display that.

Which is why Leonard McCoy, future CMO of the Enterprise, will put it in plainer language of "He's dead, Jim."

 

[fireproof78]

I was wondering if anyone else had picked up on that.
I don't think any medical diagnostic equipment would be programmed to say or display that.

Obviously it should be Murder.Death.Kill.

 

[Yistaan]

Kirk: Since your accident Chris, have you been treated well?

Pike: Beep beep.

Kirk: Two flashes is a no. Strange, all the records here show you're fed, sheltered, and have every medical need attended to as best as can be managed given your condition.

Spock: Captain Kirk, I have found the recreational video library database devoted to allow Captain Pike to pass the time without boredom. I note that it is entirely comprised of documentaries and films from Beto Ortegas, the brother of the former helmsman of the Enterprise.

Kirk: Chris, is this the mistreatment you were referring to?

Pike: Beep.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Uhura is from Kenya

It's a problem I have had with all Kurtztrek not just Uhura but to me practically everyone in the main crews looks and sounds like they are from Hollywood. It's an American show and always was but recent series seem to have a very specific casting style.

Generally these days if you want your character to be from Kenya hire an actor from Kenya. Star Trek more than anyone else should do better in that regard.

 

[fireproof78]

Star Trek is not as progressive as it boasts to be

 

[Fateor]

Why is it even assumed that Beto does not know what he was doing? What if he works in Starfleet Intelligence, and was assigned to check in on them?

Because he has none of the things a proper documentary maker should.

 

[Fantasy Lover]

Oh no, they butchered a documentary maker. Just like they butchered science, space and health care stuff. Case in point "flatlined"

 

[Farscape One]

For everyone who thinks it's crazy that Beto was allowed on the ship and allowed to make his little documentary, let me tell you about this one Starfleet captain who let an unqualified kid serve as a bridge officer because the kid was smart and the captain had a guilt/crush thing for the kid's mom.

Speaking of journalists, decades later, a station commander's kid decides to be a reporter for the Federation News Service and is even allowed to stay in that role on the station by an occupying enemy force.

Star Trek isn't actually very realistic about a whole lot of things. Heck, even the freedom of information screen at the beginning of the episode doesn't feel quite right, based on my very limited knowledge of Canadian access to information and privacy law.

To be fair, regarding Jake...

He stayed on DS9 without his dad knowing. By the time Sisko found out, it was too late to go back for him. He didn't 'allow' Jake to stay behind... he didn't have a choice. ("I can't risk the lives of everyone on this ship for one man. Even if he is my son. And like it or not, he is a man. Capable of making his own decisions.")

 

[Mudd]

I'd assume Beto submitted the request.

He knew about the mission because he was on the ship.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's a problem I have had with all Kurtztrek not just Uhura but to me practically everyone in the main crews looks and sounds like they are from Hollywood. It's an American show and always was but recent series seem to have a very specific casting style.

Generally these days if you want your character to be from Kenya hire an actor from Kenya. Star Trek more than anyone else should do better in that regard.

This hardly new for Kurtztrek, Trek in general or entertainment as a whole. They tend to cast attractive people. Beyond that I'm not sure what "Hollywood" looks are. Or Hollywood sound either. Most of the characters have a look and sound unique to themselves. Chong, Olusanmokun and Kane have nontypical accents. Navia is a Hispanic character played by a Hispanic actress. While attractive, she's probably not what comes to mind when one thinks Hollywood and American.

Not sure if "hire an actor form Kenya" is the norm. Black Panther, a film set in Africa with a large cast of African characters, has a cast dominated by American and British actors. Of the two prominent American roles, one is played by a Brit. Going back to Trek, Bush is an Australian actress playing an American. On the opposite end we have a Scot playing Scotty for the first time

 

[Nerys Myk]

Because he has none of the things a proper documentary maker should.

I'm not sure what this means.

 

[Noname Given]

Star Trek is not as progressive as it boasts to be

And never really has been.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

This hardly new for Kurtztrek, Trek in general or entertainment as a whole. They tend to cast attractive people. Beyond that I'm not sure what "Hollywood" looks are. Or Hollywood sound either. Most of the characters have a look and sound unique to themselves. Chong, Olusanmokun and Kane have nontypical accents. Navia is a Hispanic character played by a Hispanic actress. While attractive, she's probably not what comes to mind when one thinks Hollywood and American.

Not sure if "hire an actor form Kenya" is the norm. Black Panther, a film set in Africa with a large cast of African characters, has a cast dominated by American and British actors. Of the two prominent American roles, one is played by a Brit. Going back to Trek, Bush is an Australian actress playing an American. On the opposite end we have a Scot playing Scotty for the first time

I don't mean looks and if I said that I misspoke. It's a whole way of speaking and acting the same way certain shows or movies have a certain thespian British style even if the actors are not all upper class English people.

A poster earlier was chastised for not knowing a very American actor wasn't playing a Kenyan character. I wouldn't have cared too much until people start making comments like this.

 

[Mudd]

Bush plays a character with an American accent.

So does Gooding.

 

[Farscape One]

And really the only reason Jess Bush uses an American accent is because the Chapel character always used an American accent.

I don't really see a problem.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I don't mean looks and if I said that I misspoke. It's a whole way of speaking and acting the same way certain shows or movies have a certain thespian British style even if the actors are not all upper class English people.

A poster earlier was chastised for not knowing a very American actor wasn't playing a Kenyan character. I wouldn't have cared too much until people start making comments like this.

We're on a Trek board. Most of us, including the poster in question, know that Uhura is from Kenya even if played by Americans