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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x05 - "Through the Lens of Time"

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Never watch Titanic
Or Apollo 13. Though at least in Titanic, it wasn't clear if Jack survives.

You can see one of the creatures from this episode during Spock's mind meld with Batel in Episode 3.

Most people, including me, thought it was a Gorn, but if you freeze frame it, it's not a Gorn, it matches what Spock sees in the sphere in this episode.

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Intriguing! Maybe there are two competing Gorn subspecies, and the ones from TOS were simply that other one :D
Though I still think Batel might really have something to do with the TOS Gorn. That Captain would however only be about 10 years old then, if it's a new creature, right?

He had a full set of eyes. What's not to repair?

Also:
CRUSHER: This is amazing. The DNA in his optic nerves is regenerating. Geordi, it's as if you're growing new eyes.
PICARD: How is this possible?
CRUSHER: It shouldn't be possible at all. There's no medical explanation for spontaneous regeneration of an organ.

LAFORGE: Captain. ...As it turned out there wasn't anything wrong with my implants at all. There was something right ...with my eyes. ...When Doctor Crusher removed the ocular connections, she found that the cells around my optic nerves had...
PICARD: ...started to regenerate.

Though the nerves alone wouldn't have DNA, and the cells around them wouldn't grow any new eye parts either. It all comes down to us not knowing what exactly is different in his eyes.
 
Guys, Geordi's eyes couldn't be fixed because they wanted to have representation of a blind character. Nothing less and nothing more.

There's plenty of evidence that horrible injuries can be fixed in the Trekverse - when the story needs it to be. On the other hand, sometimes it cannot - when the story requires it.

There has never been any consistency. Headcanon it however you wish.
 
Guys, Geordi's eyes couldn't be fixed because they wanted to have representation of a blind character. Nothing less and nothing more.

There's plenty of evidence that horrible injuries can be fixed in the Trekverse - when the story needs it to be. On the other hand, sometimes it cannot - when the story requires it.

There has never been any consistency. Headcanon it however you wish.
Too reasonable.
 
It could be that his parents objected to having their child's eyes scooped out and replaced? Replicated food, artificial organs and even holodecks are not always embraced by everyone. But then his parents were starfleet officers including a science officer so that is maybe a stretch.

Soran mentioned Geordi could have been made to look normal so obviously keeping the visor had been his choice for quite some time. Him being used to it, feeling like it was a part of what made him who he was, perhaps he enjoyed the extra tricks it gave him. So even when he had to ditch the visor he opted for cybernetic eyes with the same capabilities.

A minor inconsistency with how happy he seemed after getting organic eyes in Insurrection and then not opting for cloned implants after seeing what he was missing out on. As a tech nerd he should have no issues with artificial organs.

Yeah trying to explain it still falls apart.
 
It could be that his parents objected to having their child's eyes scooped out and replaced? Replicated food, artificial organs and even holodecks are not always embraced by everyone. But then his parents were starfleet officers including a science officer so that is maybe a stretch.

Soran mentioned Geordi could have been made to look normal so obviously keeping the visor had been his choice for quite some time. Him being used to it, feeling like it was a part of what made him who he was, perhaps he enjoyed the extra tricks it gave him. So even when he had to ditch the visor he opted for cybernetic eyes with the same capabilities.

A minor inconsistency with how happy he seemed after getting organic eyes in Insurrection and then not opting for cloned implants after seeing what he was missing out on. As a tech nerd he should have no issues with artificial organs.

Yeah trying to explain it still falls apart.

Yeah people can try all they want to explain it. The fact that Pulaski did two surgeries and it was a pretty new procedure. Can't explain it away. How many times are they gonna keep doing this and just tear it out or bury it like they did with Holographic communication and then the Holodeck.

I'm still waiting for a rational explanation of the enormous turbolift interiors. 😂 No one has come up with it. Maybe the interiors are actual holodeck turbolift interiors.... 😏
 
There is a difference between in-universe and production reasons, as in most of these discussions ;)

One of the things I've noticed in my time on TrekBBS is I don't give a shit about Watsonian (within-universe) explanations, whereas I find Doylist (authorial intent) fascinating. This seems to set me apart from a lot of people on here.

Don't get me wrong - I don't like lazy worldbuilding if I'm say reading a book by a single author. But when we're dealing with something like Star Trek, with hundreds of hours touched by dozens of writers, I don't have any illusion that something like medical technology will be treated in a coherent manner over six decades.
 
And that would be wrong because...?
Because it contradicts all of TNG. TNG got the idea from the animated series because at the time the animated series was not Canon so they used the idea. Then some "bright" person at Paramount decided to say the AS is now canon even though it really isn't. 😂 Just another can of worms......these guys could learn a thing or two from Star Wars productions. They ain't perfect but they sure as hell try to make things reasonably fit. (Although everyone needs to stop putting cartoons as part of the Canon d r these franchises)
 
The eye regeneration thing was a bit OTT when you consider Spock’s blindness in Operation Armageddon. I think a comment such as, the Optic nerves are undamaged, might have lowered the miracle level.

One other down for me is the overly casual use of transporters in SNW. We're reminded again of those transporters in sick bay that are so sensible, their absence in TOS and TNG just stands out more (e.g. Tholian Web). Then Scotty clicks his fingers in the science lab and poof, instant transport. A stasis field and Scotty hot-footing it to the transporter room would have worked for me. Transporters get you from A on the ship to B off the ship and vice versa otherwise it becomes like AI, taking everyone's jobs. Why bother with security guards if you can insta-beam intruders to the brig? A lid should have been kept on the tech and instead Discovery took the lid off and smeared the contents over everything. If you need a communicator as a relay to transport, and if transporters are unreliable close to an active warp core, unless to a transporter pad, all TOS story logic can be preserved. Why do they keep treating it so trivially?

Edit: I might have rationalised the latter if they have a small equipment transporter in the science lab like the one on the bridge in TMP. Phew. I will sleep easier tonight.
 
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Because it contradicts all of TNG. TNG got the idea from the animated series because at the time the animated series was not Canon so they used the idea. Then some "bright" person at Paramount decided to say the AS is now canon even though it really isn't. 😂 Just another can of worms......these guys could learn a thing or two from Star Wars productions. They ain't perfect but they sure as hell try to make things reasonably fit. (Although everyone needs to stop putting cartoons as part of the Canon d r these franchises)
What exactly in the SNW holodeck contradicts "all of TNG"? Not that any of this is the topic of this episode though...
 
If I had to choose, I'd frankly rather dispose of some elements of Season 1 TNG as early-installment weirdness. Much like the early part of TOS's first season has some things which don't truly align with later Trek continuity.
 
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