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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x04 - "A Space Adventure Hour"

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Well, that was thoroughly stupid. The campy retro scenes were more suited to Black Mirror's "USS Callister" or The Orville than a Star Trek show, the mystery was bad, and yet again we get a SNW episode where the actors are playing alternate characters and encouraged to ham it up. I really have no idea why the show would want to do "The Elysian Kingdom" again, as it was bad enough the first time.

And I REALLY hated the
Spock/La'an romance at the end. The last thing I want to see on SNW is a stupid love triangle, but damned if they aren't serving one up like it's a CW show.

2 out of 10. Honestly, this season is pretty dire so far. The goofiness has taken over the show and it's almost impossible to take it seriously any more. About the only good thing I can say about this episode is that at least it burned off its unfunny TOS parody along with its unfunny Clue/Knives Out parody in a single episode instead of doing an episode each on them. I just want fun, dramatic, or thought provoking Star Trek stories, but apparently the series wants to do anything but that now.
 
So what?

Lighten up. It's a TV show.

To be fair, Star Trek fans are literally the OGs of worrying about something the creators never intended to give Professor Tolkien-esque seriousness.

(And he made the Hobbit)

This still cracks me up today. One of Bill's finest moments. 😆

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That's the real world, not the world of Star Trek. Spock had romantic entanglements here and there and even Dax was crushing on him, but his love life was not a driving aspect of his character. I wouldn't call Nimoy's Spock, within the world of Trek, a stud muffin.

Yes, the rationale will be how he was in "The Cage" and this is younger Spock, but SNW is getting pretty close to the Original Series now. And when the SNW creatives try to hang their depiction on "The Cage", its often funny to me because they can be cavalier about canon at other times.

Not just that. To me, it's highly annoying that Spock is being used as SNW's romantic hub to the extent that I cringe every time I see him doing moon eyes at someone... ANYONE. Obviously, they're trying to somehow beef up the character's hitherto latent love life by making it overt, but the writing is so below par as to make this a soap opera. Is he going to go through every skirt on the bridge (and elsewhere) by the time this thing ends?!

Anyway, I'm just going to make this short and say I couldn't stand this episode from beginning to the very end. And, no, I love fun episodes AND "ship in a bottle" (yes, I said that) stories. But they need to be written well. This deserves a big, fat, ZERO, but there ain't no zero up there, so I give it a one. We get only 10 episodes, people. Are they already creatively so bankrupt that this one got out of the shit pile?!
 
Most boring episode this series has done. Gave it a 1 out of 10 which I've never done before. The beginning with the nod to TOS was cool, but once it got into Clue territory I simply lost interest. Clearly these type of stories are not in the writer's wheelhouse. If you're going to do a holodeck or who dun it episode, make it more interesting than this.

Id also add if your going to have your cast spend so much time as other characters, watch DS9 FAR Beyond The Stars to see how its done right

Also enough with Spock romances. Tpring was one thing, but then Chapel and now Laa'n. I didn't know that "To boldy go " meant Spock's journey through female officers.
 
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I just want fun, dramatic, or thought provoking Star Trek stories, but apparently the series wants to do anything but that now.
Yeah, it feels at this point like the show is becoming a vehicle for the writers to amuse themselves and give the actors a chance to mess around, all wrapped inside the pop cultural memory of Star Trek. There's nothing inherently wrong with that in itself, but it is a shame that this is the only live action Star Trek series currently on TV and in its first season seemed to promise to be the modern-day answer to TOS/TNG/Voyager, only to pivot so hard into fanfic tropes and constant meta stuff.

I still can't put my finger on what it was about the Star Trek parody in this episode that wrongfooted me so much. Maybe it's just the sense of having it dangled before us like that - "here's a send-up of the show you miss and want more of and which we share a title with, now let's dive back into Spock's latest YA romance and this week's genre pastiche".
 
Not just that. To me, it's highly annoying that Spock is being used as SNW's romantic hub to the extent that I cringe every time I see him doing moon eyes at someone... ANYONE. Obviously, they're trying to somehow beef up the character's hitherto latent love life by making it overt, but the writing is so below par as to make this a soap opera. Is he going to go through every skirt on the bridge (and elsewhere) by the time this thing ends?!

Anyway, I'm just going to make this short and say I couldn't stand this episode from beginning to the very end. And, no, I love fun episodes AND "ship in a bottle" (yes, I said that) stories. But they need to be written well. This deserves a big, fat, ZERO, but there ain't no zero up there, so I give it a one. We get only 10 episodes, people. Are they already creatively so bankrupt that this one got out of the shit pile?!

They actively mine either tos or tng in episodes. This one did both. Enough is enough. I want some fresh storytelling. No trelane, no zombies, no holodeck, no making fun of TOS. Just give us some new fresh ideas. We've got 6 episodes left. We are unfortunately going to get another comedy. So that leaves us with 5 possible serious episodes left with what I hope is original ideas.
 
After the first dance scene, with the clear hesitation, I thought the way it was going to go was that La'an smooched holo-Spock, then he dies/she otherwise figures out that he's not real, and feels embarrassed for being the first person in Starfleet history to use the holodeck to rub one out.

Then, she feels so awkward about the whole thing, the subplot is completely put to bed for many episodes, if not the whole damn season.

Your creative bones are waaay better than the ones writing the show.
 
To be frank, I do think there's some flaws of this episode, it feels like the creators have run out of ideas when they had a lot more to work on.

The Augment Ban, Time Travel, Khan, The Gorn, Pike's doomed future, Spock's brother and more.

They have seemingly done a LOT more silliness, instead. Do we really have room for this, Trelane, AND puppets?
 
Yeah, it feels at this point like the show is becoming a vehicle for the writers to amuse themselves and give the actors a chance to mess around, all wrapped inside the pop cultural memory of Star Trek. There's nothing inherently wrong with that in itself, but it is a shame that this is the only live action Star Trek series currently on TV and in its first season seemed to promise to be the modern-day answer to TOS/TNG/Voyager, only to pivot so hard into fanfic tropes and constant meta stuff.

I still can't put my finger on what it was about the Star Trek parody in this episode that wrongfooted me so much. Maybe it's just the sense of having it dangled before us like that - "here's a send-up of the show you miss and want more of and which we share a title with, now let's dive back into Spock's latest YA romance and this week's genre pastiche".
No, this is the writers going back to the more serialized storytelling that made Star Trek so enjoyable.


It’s one book.
Which is more then enough.
 
SNW increasingly feels like Community, so that tracks.
Community had the advantages of:

1) Being a sitcom, and

2) Actually being funny.
Again, yes, she's traditionally hot (though I'd not say she's anywhere near the cutest of the many hot women from TOS). But Spock is someone who values intelligence, and she comes across as a bit of a dullard. And he's also been characterized as being very reticent regarding feelings in TOS up until this point, having repeatedly rebuffed the advances of others.

He just behaves hugely out-of-character here, and it can't help but make me respect him less. Like when a friend of yours strings along a hot, dumb woman he has no intentions of ever being in a relationship with.
Honestly, I think that applies to most every romantic interest Spock had in TOS's 3rd season. Droxine, Zarabeth, the Romulan Commander... None of them were smart enough for Spock to be attracted to them, IMO.
The show is devolving dangerously into the frivolous. Again, with a 26 episode season you can get away with this occasionally. In a ten episode season it is a show killer.
100% agreed. It's like watching a 10 episode season of TOS where every other episode is trying to be a comedy like "I, Mudd," "A Piece of the Action," or "The Trouble With Tribbles." It just gets exhausting.
 
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