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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x02 - "Wedding Bell Blues"

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So... Trelane without being named. (Nice touch having de Lancie voice his dad, tying into a novel where Q and Trelane are related... no surprise, as Kirsten Beyer IS a ST novelist.) I didn't like that... was too much like ENT with the Ferengi. It was ludicrous, Trelane here. Trelane or his never showed they had the ability to move through time. Also, Scotty saw him briefly on the sensors... Q aren't detectable unless they WANT to be. So I don't think Trelane is a Q, despite the de Lancie easter egg.

If this was a longer season, the silliness would feel earned... DS9, for instance, would have 6 episodes of the Dominion War then have a levity episode with Worf and Dax's wedding. But because the seasons were longer, those episodes felt EARNED. Here, with such short seasons, it's taking away a big slot for deeper material. Comedy is great to have... it's needed to help balance drama and darkness. But it works in drips WITHIN the episode, not BE the entire episode. Plus... the comedy wasn't that good here.

Using Wham!... love the song, but it just doesn't feel right using it here. (Same problem I had with Beastie Boys' "Sabotage" in BEYOND.)

I did love THE TWILIGHT ZONE reference with the cornfield. And Pike's wraparound uniform!

Glad to see we will be getting some meaty story for Ortegas... her trauma. That last scene was good.


Overall, I gave this a 3.
 
So... Trelane without being named. (Nice touch having de Lancie voice his dad, tying into a novel where Q and Trelane are related... no surprise, as Kirsten Beyer IS a ST novelist.) I didn't like that... was too much like ENT with the Ferengi. It was ludicrous, Trelane here. Trelane or his never showed they had the ability to move through time. Also, Scotty saw him briefly on the sensors... Q aren't detectable unless they WANT to be. So I don't think Trelane is a Q, despite the de Lancie easter egg.
He’s still learning! Give the kid a break!!!
 
I did read it. You appear to have been questioning the statement " Look at the care that went into the TOS bridge on Relics." Am I wrong?
No, your not wrong: but you also didn't fully quote what I said in that regard either...
Care? For that Ep. They only built the Engineering station, Turbo Lift alcove, and the Captain's Chair.

If you notice, BOTH Scotty and Picard have the Tibo Lift alcove walk behind them as they 'enter' the Holodeck recreation and for a hardcore TOS fan. it's honestly jarring as that WOULD NOT be what you would see behind them from the angle they entered if it was a full bridge set....
Which adds more context.
 
... Trelane without being named. (Nice touch having de Lancie voice his dad, tying into a novel where Q and Trelane are related... no surprise, as Kirsten Beyer IS a ST novelist.) I didn't like that... was too much like ENT with the Ferengi. It was ludicrous, Trelane here. Trelane or his never showed they had the ability to move through time. Also, Scotty saw him briefly on the sensors... Q aren't detectable unless they WANT to be. So I don't think Trelane is a Q, despite the de Lancie easter egg.
He's adopted?
 
Care? For that Ep. They only built the Engineering station, Turbo Lift alcove, and the Captain's Chair.

they only built the turbolift and Engineering station. The Captains Chair and Helm console were on loan from a fan.

For the full empty Bridge shots they had with no characters in them was most likely stock footage from TOS S3 The Mark Of Gideon.

This Side of Paradise, actually.
 
I think they should bring in a species with two extra upper limbs. You could never catch them by surprise since four-armed is forewarned.
This reminds me of fan fics I wrote when I was a child, though they technically took place in an "original" world they were in fact rather obviously plagiarized Star Trek. Anyway, the antagonists of my faux Starfleet were a race of four armed aliens rather originally named the Four Arms. I even had a Four Arm rebel against his people and join the faux Starfleet and was the tactical officer on the central starship the stories took place on. Yes, he was basically Worf Lite.
 
No kidding.

But I mentioned it in response to someone. claiming the degree of "care" taken to reproduce said Bridge.

Guess you didn't bother to read thr quoted part.

It looked good enough to do what it needed to do. The fact is it they honored the original look.


It looked like something designed in the 60s. Great for nostalgia. Wouldn't hold up as something seen on the regular that's supposed to be "our future."

So the 60s looked like TOS? I disagree.
 
Regarding the Connie bridge scene stock footage, from Memory Alpha [link]:

That suitable Original Series footage was the footage of the empty bridge seen in the background, when Scotty entered the holodeck. It was Visual Effects Producer Dan Curry, like Moore a closet Original Series fan, who remembered the empty bridge scene of the original Enterprise from The Original Series episode "This Side of Paradise". (Star Trek: The Next Generation 365, p. 274) The scene, color corrected and enhanced, was looped into the longer footage as eventually featured in the episode. Due to the "looping" of the scene, and blue screening it behind Scotty performer James Doohan, the small, wedge-shaped part of the set, though somewhat cramped, served exceptionally well, as it could be used to represent different parts of the bridge by slightly redressing it and using different camera angles. Ironically, Doohan did not appear in the episode from which the footage was taken. The shot of the original viewscreen (with no one sitting at the helm/navigation console) was recycled from "The Mark of Gideon". (Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion, 3rd ed., p. 219)​
 
So... Trelane without being named. (Nice touch having de Lancie voice his dad, tying into a novel where Q and Trelane are related... no surprise, as Kirsten Beyer IS a ST novelist.) I didn't like that... was too much like ENT with the Ferengi. It was ludicrous, Trelane here. Trelane or his never showed they had the ability to move through time. Also, Scotty saw him briefly on the sensors... Q aren't detectable unless they WANT to be. So I don't think Trelane is a Q, despite the de Lancie easter egg.

If this was a longer season, the silliness would feel earned... DS9, for instance, would have 6 episodes of the Dominion War then have a levity episode with Worf and Dax's wedding. But because the seasons were longer, those episodes felt EARNED. Here, with such short seasons, it's taking away a big slot for deeper material. Comedy is great to have... it's needed to help balance drama and darkness. But it works in drips WITHIN the episode, not BE the entire episode. Plus... the comedy wasn't that good here.

Using Wham!... love the song, but it just doesn't feel right using it here. (Same problem I had with Beastie Boys' "Sabotage" in BEYOND.)

I did love THE TWILIGHT ZONE reference with the cornfield. And Pike's wraparound uniform!

Glad to see we will be getting some meaty story for Ortegas... her trauma. That last scene was good.


Overall, I gave this a 3.

I also gave it a 3 and we concur on most of your points. The only difference is I did like Sabotage in Beyond only bc of the call back to the 2009 scene with young Kirk in his dad's car. And Pine's face in Beyond when he heard the song made it a satisfactory call back as well. I don't mind those kinds of easter eggs.
 
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