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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x02 - "Wedding Bell Blues"

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I loved the Twilight Zone reference ("wish him into the cornfield").:lol:
I'm only on Page two of this thread so maybe someone else has pointed out that the three armed bartender could also be a Twilight Zone reference to "Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up" in which a three-armed character made an appearance. (Played by John Hoyt, who would later play Dr. Phillip Boyce, a CMO on the Enterprise undeer Pike.)
 
I'm only on Page two of this thread so maybe someone else has pointed out that the three armed bartender could also be a Twilight Zone reference to "Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up" in which a three-armed character made an appearance. (Played by John Hoyt, who would later play Dr. Phillip Boyce, a CMO on the Enterprise undeer Pike.)
I think the assumption is that the bartender is of the same species (Edosan) as Arex from TAS.
 
Well so far this show definitely seems to be a dramatization of logs. The Berman shows and movies all support the TOS look and cast.
Hardly.

TNG S6 Relics turned Scotty into a dottering old fool who was ridiculed by Geordie.

Star Trek Generations had Kirk ultimately dying on the ground and never really commanding or going out commanding a ship; which if you're going to kill Kirk <--- That's the ONLY way his character shouild have gone out.

The Berman era treated the TOS era with anything but respect.

They were all envious that TOS was (at the time) still more popular than TNG - and it was the first thing most people thought of when you said "STAR TREK".
 
Hardly.

TNG S6 Relics turned Scotty into a dottering old fool who was ridiculed by Geordie.

Star Trek Generations had Kirk ultimately dying on the ground and never really commanding or going out commanding a ship; which if you're going to kill Kirk <--- That's the ONLY way his character shouild have gone out.

The Berman era treated the TOS era with anything but respect.

They were all envious that TOS was (at the time) still more popular than TNG - and it was the first thing most people thought of when you said "STAR TREK".
Spock was ridiculed by Picard. Despite indications of reconciliation between him and Sarek the drama police insisted they be estranged again.


The only thing that got close to respect was DS9.
 
Yeah. But then they are living out the fantasy world of Trelane, who likes to take inspiration from the 15th century…

BTW, I don’t think the “old homeworld” he mentioned was the planet Ruk will be found on.
I think he referenced Gothos…
Pedant alert! Trelane's inspiration was from the early 19th century. The Regency period in England.
 
Spock's romance days are not over, yet. Spock still needs to meet botanist Leila Kalomi on Earth ~6 years before the TOS episode This Side of Paradise. :vulcan: Depending on the timeline interpretation for TOS, this is coming up soon. Apparently, Spock gets out of his romantic rejection emotions dilemma by embracing his Vulcanian side in the near future.
Or not. If they actually pay attention to the details, Spock didn't allow himself to love her. So my personal approach to this would be Spock stuggling with feelings, but pushing them down due to the failure of his relationship with Christine and also recommitting to T'Pring and embracing his Vulcan heritage. But as for a full romance, a smart writer wouldn't go back to that well for Spock and make it more about learning how to let someone down easily. This could really be a single episode story since Leila was the person with the strong feelings and she's not a regular.

Spock was ridiculed by Picard. Despite indications of reconciliation between him and Sarek the drama police insisted they be estranged again.


The only thing that got close to respect was DS9.
Yeah Berman had no positive feelings towards TOS, so when they did grace us with something, it was hardly complimentary. Only Dee Kelley's cameo came off just right and that was more Roddenberry/Gerrold/Fontana/Justman.

Having said that, practically ignoring TOS other than using it as the basis of the universe the show inhabits 78 years later was the best damned decision they could have made. It pushed them into having to create their own lore and universe, and the series was all the richer for it. And it also resulted in the most successful of the series, both critically and in the ratings.
 
Pedant alert! Trelane's inspiration was from the early 19th century. The Regency period in England.
The discrepancy comes from the fact that Trelane is said to be observing Earth through a telescope at 900 light years distance. Star Trek's time frame hadn't been established by that time, so the math doesn't math. If that were the case, and Trelane was observing Regency period, Earth should have only been 400 light years distance. Something for Kovich to worry about.
 
Hardly.

TNG S6 Relics turned Scotty into a dottering old fool who was ridiculed by Geordie

The Wright Brothers first flew in 1903.
78 years later it's 1981 and we have Boeing 747s.
Plop Orville or Wilbur Wright down in the cockpit of a 747 and ask them to fly it.
I would admire them for being the first powered flight, but they would be way out of their depth otherwise.
 
The Wright Brothers first flew in 1903.
78 years later it's 1981 and we have Boeing 747s.
Plop Orville or Wilbur Wright down in the cockpit of a 747 and ask them to fly it.
I would admire them for being the first powered flight, but they would be way out of their depth otherwise.
and we're talking Mr. Scott here - who spent all his free time reading Star Fleet Technical Manuals. (See TOS S2 - The Triouble With Tribbles, and any other episode where Kirk tries to get Scotty to take leave.)

This is the Engineer who hooked up a Romulan cloaking Device to Federation tech and got it working in under 10 minutes.

Yet in TNG S6 Rekics - he suddenly doesn't want to look at a Tech Manual anymore, and seemingly can't reconize tech that Geordie admits hasn't changed - Geordie: "Impulse Engine design hasn't changed much in 200 years..."

So yeah, don't tell me Berman and Co. treated said charcater with respect.
 
Having said that, practically ignoring TOS other than using it as the basis of the universe the show inhabits 78 years later was the best damned decision they could have made. It pushed them into having to create their own lore and universe, and the series was all the richer for it. And it also resulted in the most successful of the series, both critically and in the ratings.
Good for TNG. I think they did wrong by TOS.
 
The discrepancy comes from the fact that Trelane is said to be observing Earth through a telescope at 900 light years distance. Star Trek's time frame hadn't been established by that time, so the math doesn't math. If that were the case, and Trelane was observing Regency period, Earth should have only been 400 light years distance. Something for Kovich to worry about.
Trelane failed math and history at Qniverisity.
 
Unless this takes place before his adventures with Icheb.
It was mentioned that he was only 8000 years old, so this would have been before Q did the whole "spend millions of years with q2" thing.

Linearly speaking it would probably go.

The Q and the Grey ---> The Squire of Gothos ---> Wedding Bell Blues ---> Q2

With True Q thrown in somewhere after The Q and the Grey.
 
Nothing on Memory-Alpha is official, it's fan run.


An interview with the showrunners saying Trelane is the son of The Q, or some equivalent of that seems pretty official to me.
We have people here who argue that the character Laurel Goodwin played in "The Cage" wasn't Yeoman Colt because the words "Yeoman Colt" were never uttered together onscreen, consequently "Yeoman Colt" isn't canon despite series format documents and scripts from the series creator explicitly using that name.

Go figure.
 
Hardly.

TNG S6 Relics turned Scotty into a dottering old fool who was ridiculed by Geordie.

Star Trek Generations had Kirk ultimately dying on the ground and never really commanding or going out commanding a ship; which if you're going to kill Kirk <--- That's the ONLY way his character shouild have gone out.

The Berman era treated the TOS era with anything but respect.

They were all envious that TOS was (at the time) still more popular than TNG - and it was the first thing most people thought of when you said "STAR TREK".

Scotty saved the Enterprise D. Basically the hero of the episode. Geordi and Scotty had a mutual respect at the end. Pretty good ending for Scotty.

Kirk was retired. But he saved the Enterprise B and he helped save a planet at the end. The only bad part is he died falling off a bridge. T

Spock was treated well in his episode. He had the lofty goal of reunification of the Vulcans and Romulans. We know that ultimately succeeded.

Other bits. They celebrated the TOS look of the Enterprise several times in the Berman productions. They tweaked the bridge a bit in the mirror episides. It looked great.
 
The discrepancy comes from the fact that Trelane is said to be observing Earth through a telescope at 900 light years distance. Star Trek's time frame hadn't been established by that time, so the math doesn't math. If that were the case, and Trelane was observing Regency period, Earth should have only been 400 light years distance. Something for Kovich to worry about.
The discrepancy comes from the people in charge of production overall not caring much about accuracy. The clothes,the accoutrements, the language is Regency despite the look of the "castle". Why did they choose it? It added just the right amount of pretentiousness? Who knows. When I was eleven I just really liked the pretty dress.
 
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