It's one of the best episodes of the modern era.I loved "Those Old Scientists." I still do. It's absolutely ridiculous and silly even by Star Trek standards, but it works and beautifully so for me.
It's one of the best episodes of the modern era.I loved "Those Old Scientists." I still do. It's absolutely ridiculous and silly even by Star Trek standards, but it works and beautifully so for me.
I loved the Twilight Zone reference ("wish him into the cornfield").![]()
I'm only on Page two of this thread so maybe someone else has pointed out that the three armed bartender could also be a Twilight Zone reference to "Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up" in which a three-armed character made an appearance. (Played by John Hoyt, who would later play Dr. Phillip Boyce, a CMO on the Enterprise undeer Pike.)I loved the Twilight Zone reference ("wish him into the cornfield").![]()
I think the assumption is that the bartender is of the same species (Edosan) as Arex from TAS.I'm only on Page two of this thread so maybe someone else has pointed out that the three armed bartender could also be a Twilight Zone reference to "Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up" in which a three-armed character made an appearance. (Played by John Hoyt, who would later play Dr. Phillip Boyce, a CMO on the Enterprise undeer Pike.)
Hardly.Well so far this show definitely seems to be a dramatization of logs. The Berman shows and movies all support the TOS look and cast.
Spock was ridiculed by Picard. Despite indications of reconciliation between him and Sarek the drama police insisted they be estranged again.Hardly.
TNG S6 Relics turned Scotty into a dottering old fool who was ridiculed by Geordie.
Star Trek Generations had Kirk ultimately dying on the ground and never really commanding or going out commanding a ship; which if you're going to kill Kirk <--- That's the ONLY way his character shouild have gone out.
The Berman era treated the TOS era with anything but respect.
They were all envious that TOS was (at the time) still more popular than TNG - and it was the first thing most people thought of when you said "STAR TREK".
Pedant alert! Trelane's inspiration was from the early 19th century. The Regency period in England.Yeah. But then they are living out the fantasy world of Trelane, who likes to take inspiration from the 15th century…
BTW, I don’t think the “old homeworld” he mentioned was the planet Ruk will be found on.
I think he referenced Gothos…
Or not. If they actually pay attention to the details, Spock didn't allow himself to love her. So my personal approach to this would be Spock stuggling with feelings, but pushing them down due to the failure of his relationship with Christine and also recommitting to T'Pring and embracing his Vulcan heritage. But as for a full romance, a smart writer wouldn't go back to that well for Spock and make it more about learning how to let someone down easily. This could really be a single episode story since Leila was the person with the strong feelings and she's not a regular.Spock's romance days are not over, yet. Spock still needs to meet botanist Leila Kalomi on Earth ~6 years before the TOS episode This Side of Paradise.Depending on the timeline interpretation for TOS, this is coming up soon. Apparently, Spock gets out of his romantic rejection emotions dilemma by embracing his Vulcanian side in the near future.
Yeah Berman had no positive feelings towards TOS, so when they did grace us with something, it was hardly complimentary. Only Dee Kelley's cameo came off just right and that was more Roddenberry/Gerrold/Fontana/Justman.Spock was ridiculed by Picard. Despite indications of reconciliation between him and Sarek the drama police insisted they be estranged again.
The only thing that got close to respect was DS9.
The discrepancy comes from the fact that Trelane is said to be observing Earth through a telescope at 900 light years distance. Star Trek's time frame hadn't been established by that time, so the math doesn't math. If that were the case, and Trelane was observing Regency period, Earth should have only been 400 light years distance. Something for Kovich to worry about.Pedant alert! Trelane's inspiration was from the early 19th century. The Regency period in England.
Hardly.
TNG S6 Relics turned Scotty into a dottering old fool who was ridiculed by Geordie
and we're talking Mr. Scott here - who spent all his free time reading Star Fleet Technical Manuals. (See TOS S2 - The Triouble With Tribbles, and any other episode where Kirk tries to get Scotty to take leave.)The Wright Brothers first flew in 1903.
78 years later it's 1981 and we have Boeing 747s.
Plop Orville or Wilbur Wright down in the cockpit of a 747 and ask them to fly it.
I would admire them for being the first powered flight, but they would be way out of their depth otherwise.
Good for TNG. I think they did wrong by TOS.Having said that, practically ignoring TOS other than using it as the basis of the universe the show inhabits 78 years later was the best damned decision they could have made. It pushed them into having to create their own lore and universe, and the series was all the richer for it. And it also resulted in the most successful of the series, both critically and in the ratings.
Trelane failed math and history at Qniverisity.The discrepancy comes from the fact that Trelane is said to be observing Earth through a telescope at 900 light years distance. Star Trek's time frame hadn't been established by that time, so the math doesn't math. If that were the case, and Trelane was observing Regency period, Earth should have only been 400 light years distance. Something for Kovich to worry about.
It's go to comfort food for when I'm feeling down. A loving tribute to Star Trek and its fans.I loved "Those Old Scientists." I still do. It's absolutely ridiculous and silly even by Star Trek standards, but it works and beautifully so for me.
It was mentioned that he was only 8000 years old, so this would have been before Q did the whole "spend millions of years with q2" thing.Unless this takes place before his adventures with Icheb.
We have people here who argue that the character Laurel Goodwin played in "The Cage" wasn't Yeoman Colt because the words "Yeoman Colt" were never uttered together onscreen, consequently "Yeoman Colt" isn't canon despite series format documents and scripts from the series creator explicitly using that name.Nothing on Memory-Alpha is official, it's fan run.
An interview with the showrunners saying Trelane is the son of The Q, or some equivalent of that seems pretty official to me.
Hardly.
TNG S6 Relics turned Scotty into a dottering old fool who was ridiculed by Geordie.
Star Trek Generations had Kirk ultimately dying on the ground and never really commanding or going out commanding a ship; which if you're going to kill Kirk <--- That's the ONLY way his character shouild have gone out.
The Berman era treated the TOS era with anything but respect.
They were all envious that TOS was (at the time) still more popular than TNG - and it was the first thing most people thought of when you said "STAR TREK".
The discrepancy comes from the people in charge of production overall not caring much about accuracy. The clothes,the accoutrements, the language is Regency despite the look of the "castle". Why did they choose it? It added just the right amount of pretentiousness? Who knows. When I was eleven I just really liked the pretty dress.The discrepancy comes from the fact that Trelane is said to be observing Earth through a telescope at 900 light years distance. Star Trek's time frame hadn't been established by that time, so the math doesn't math. If that were the case, and Trelane was observing Regency period, Earth should have only been 400 light years distance. Something for Kovich to worry about.
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