Well, if this *is* Trelane....
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x02 - "Wedding Bell Blues"
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Well, if this *is* Trelane....
This retroactively makes The Squire of Gothos Q's first appearance. I wonder how Memory Alpha is going to handle all this? They already seem to keep separate pages for Daniels and Kovich. I wonder what they're going to do with the Trelane and Q (Junior )pages?
Yeah. But then they are living out the fantasy world of Trelane, who likes to take inspiration from the 15th century…
BTW, I don’t think the “old homeworld” he mentioned was the planet Ruk will be found on.
I think he referenced Gothos…
He's an energy being. He doesn't have an actual face.
I guess transferring his consciousness to a robot body cured Korby of being Irish.
I take the combination of Trelane, Q Junior, and the Continuum to be an homage to Peter David (RIP).
Especially since in early TNG Q is a dick and I doubt he'd have had any problems toying with humans as occurs in this episode. Being turned human in S3 humbled him and he was a different character after.
Decent character driven episode. Canonically it doesn't make much sense though and yet again I have to say they should have just made this explicitly a reboot if they were going to play around like this and then it would be fine.
Trelane appears to derive a significant amount of his power in TOS from whatever that machine was, which has always made me not buy the explanation of him being a Q. Also he appears to not know much about humans and still thinks it's the 1700's, which doesn't work if he's met humans before. Also why doesn't Spock recognize him in Squire of Gothos?
The update on the green wraparound is GOATed though.
Trelane appears to derive a significant amount of his power in TOS from whatever that machine was, which has always made me not buy the explanation of him being a Q. Also he appears to not know much about humans and still thinks it's the 1700's, which doesn't work if he's met humans before. Also why doesn't Spock recognize him in Squire of Gothos?
The update on the green wraparound is GOATed though.
And even ignoring that, everyone in this episode was seeing him as an Andorian anyway, we even see an Andorian reflection when Trelane was looking at a padd earlier in this episode. The one exception was his first scene, Spock apparently saw him as a Vulcan.
It could be this happened after the "Squire of Gothos" in terms of Trelane's respective timeline, meaning Spock didn't meet him until after Trelane/Qjunior went back in time after meeting Spock for the first time in that episode.
He also doesn't identify himself as Trelane.
canon is intact, this occurs after Squire of Gothos in Trelane's timeline.
And apparently long after Q2 in Voyager, if Trelane is indeed Q junior.
Also , they never mention Trelane or Q. Spock saw him as a Vulcan. So he wouldnt recognise Trelane in Gothos
And apparently long after Q2 in Voyager, if Trelane is indeed Q junior.
Also , they never mention Trelane or Q. Spock saw him as a Vulcan. So he wouldnt recognise Trelane in Gothos
I mean, it technically could have been q from after the Voyager episode, and trelanes fascination with Earth and the Enterprise is because of his father. He just keeps messing up and picking the wrong Enterprise because his space Time coordination isn't there yet. Lol.
I know Trek fans are impressionable and love their fan theories ( guilty of it myself to a degree) but I am surprised how many are just assuming this Character was a Q. Like it's official canon. Unless I'm missing something? Is it solely because DeLancie played the voice of the Father.?...just based on that? I get (and agree) with the assumption that this was Trelane or Trelane's race but where was it stated he is Q.?
Some are just making that connection as a given now "Well now that we finally know Trelane is a Q" ...... ????
To me getting Delancie to play the father of the entity was a quasi inside joke for Fans to play in on that Q/Trelane speculation/similarity. Nothing else. It's not like the actor who played Trelane is alive today and available for a cameo.
Some are just making that connection as a given now "Well now that we finally know Trelane is a Q" ...... ????
To me getting Delancie to play the father of the entity was a quasi inside joke for Fans to play in on that Q/Trelane speculation/similarity. Nothing else. It's not like the actor who played Trelane is alive today and available for a cameo.
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I think the retcon/continuity is the following:
* The Wedding Planner is Trelane
* Trelane is a Q
* Trelane is actually Q2, son of Q and Q
* Q is actually the father of Trelane in "The Squire of Gothos"
Clear as mud, I know.
And the reasoning is Trelane being a Q has been a thing since Peter David's writing.
* The Wedding Planner is Trelane
* Trelane is a Q
* Trelane is actually Q2, son of Q and Q
* Q is actually the father of Trelane in "The Squire of Gothos"
Clear as mud, I know.
And the reasoning is Trelane being a Q has been a thing since Peter David's writing.
Does this add more spice to the speculation and fan theories? Sure . But nothing we saw in this episode should add /change the Q or Trelane entry in the Star Trek Encyclopedia or Memory Alpha as narrative canon.
In the context of, "Famous 30 year veteran of a single omnipotent trickster character voices omnipotent trickster character's father which is notable as they have an impotent trickster character son in canon." Which you can say is just an homage.
Or you can also say that if you ignore it then visual storytelling is dead and all things must be clearly stated for the audience or they don't count.
Eh, they regrew the fingers.
Of course it counts . No issue with people seeing that in their personal head cannon. I'm not saying ignore just nothing has structurally changed with official cannon for the Q/Trelane
That seems quite clear (and nicely spelled out here), actually.
