Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x02 - "Wedding Bell Blues"

[cooleddie74]

So....he's a Q. The father's voice gives it away even if the episode itself was very coy about who Trelane was. It's clear this is Trelane from after his encounter with the Enterprise crew in TOS and that's why he tells Spock he's always amused by his behavior. Older Trelane is still a petulant troublemaker and the rest like him (*ahem*) clearly don't impose enough parental discipline on this guy. This now makes twice he's interfered with the same Federation starship, chastised and had to be called back inside by his family.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Well, I decided to pop into this thread thinking that "how bad could the spoilers be?" Silly me. Still looking forward to it.

 

[Seven of Five]

Usually love Rhys Darby like in Flight of the Conchords and other things, but the humor fell flat this time round.

The best bit of the episode was the end with the revelation with the guy being Trelance, and Q was also his father.

 

[Uhura's Song]

Well, certainly a tonal shift from the first one. Light following dark.

Trelane is a Q with DeLance's voice as daddy. Odd to see Q as the responsible parent. Maybe it is just Delance's voice, and not Q specifically? I mean, VOY seemed to be his first time as a parent.

I watched when I was tired. The La'an/Spock part was the highlight for me. And Ortegas' PTSD and her little brother being into Uhura.

A notch below the premier. But at least the Gorn and the Spock/Chapel relationship are on their TOS tracks. We can see Scotty's path. Pike is already on his.
Una & Mbenga have some ground to cover.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Was it implied that the young, now permamently stationed nurse is M`Benga junior? Doctor M'Benga seemed unusually affectionate.

 

[Procutus]

Would you change your avatar to reflect this being "the cat's ass"?

I'll have to work on that!

 

[Tuskin38]

Unrelated to that, the tune when Christine steps up to Spock at the wedding reminded me of Ahsoka's theme from The Clone Wars.

It was also played in episode 1 in one of the Spock/Chapel scenes. It seems to be Christine’s motif. Or maybe a Spock/Christine motif

 

[Tuskin38]

Maybe it is just Delance's voice, and not Q specifically? I mean, VOY seemed to be his first time as a parent.

Remember, the Q are non-linear.

As pointed out above, there’s already dialogue that implies this is Trelane after TOS.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Remember, the Q are non-linear

Exactly. I think that the implication here is that Q we saw on Voyager is Trelane. From the perspective of the Q, we would have seen his birth and his first appearance on Voyager, then jump to The Squire of Gothos because both parents are still involved, then to Wedding Bell Blues because Trelane apparently already knows Spock and as noted, Q is the "responsible" parent. Finally, we have his appearance in Q2. Works for me anyway.

 

[Noname Given]

A 3 from me.

Overall I found it extremely dissapointing and a real waste of an episode.

I really don't need more small universe syndrome or confirmation that 'Telane' from TOS S1 The Squire Of Gothos was indeed a Q. Everything was just ham-fisted here and not worth wasting an SNW episode on. Geting John Delancie to voice 'Daddy Q' sorry but

(And yeah, I don't see TNG's Q as every being a 'responsible father' to the point he'd show up to stop his 'son'.)

I will give them props for doing te very TOS thing of NOT showing 'Son of Q' in Vulcan or Andorian make up - even though from the episode dialogue it's clear that Spock sees him as a Vulcan Bartender at one point and then later Spock, Pike and the others see him as a Andorian wedding planner.

I gave it a 3 only because I enjoyed teh 3 new characters it introduced:

- The new male Nurse Assitant.

- Erica Ortegas' kid brother.

- The four-armed Bartender (And if they had made he a Guinan clone, which thankfully she definitely isn't; I would have really gone off here; but I like her so far.)

I REALLY hope they NEVER revist this 'Son of Q' again. Once was TOO MUCH for me.

 

[Nyotarules]

Good to see the aliens of S1E1 and S1E5 in the episode

 

[Yistaan]

So I'm assuming Federation Day is sometime in January or early in the year? Because otherwise we'd have literally no episodes in 2260 which is really strange (the Rigel episode was still in 2259 because of the '5 years ago since the Cage' dialogue)

I'm totally here for the messy La'an/Spock/Kirk love triangle

 

[Blamo]

8/10

I quite enjoyed that, though I did cringe (almost shrink browser) when they were dealing with Spock's jealousy.

As a Hijinks episode there wasn't much too it, but I loved how they expanded on La'an who so far is getting a good amount of focus this season. I also liked how Ortegas is now dealing with the trauma from thew previous episode.

I'll be honest, SNW is shaping up to be my favourite Trek after Deep Space Nine

 

[kirk55555]

Can we get one damn Spock episode of SNW that isn't a shitty comedy? The answer is no.

The performance of Not-Trelane and the DeLancie voice cameo drag this up from a 1 to a 2/10, still better then the "Freaky friday" or "Spock becomes totally Human" episodes, but still shitty treatment of arguably the most iconic Star Trek character. Discovery having the only good Spock focused story with this version of Spock is absolutely pathetic at this point, and its the one huge recurring problem in SNW, a generally very good show.

 

[bookworm8571]

So....he's a Q. The father's voice gives it away even if the episode itself was very coy about who Trelane was. It's clear this is Trelane from after his encounter with the Enterprise crew in TOS and that's why he tells Spock he's always amused by his behavior. Older Trelane is still a petulant troublemaker and the rest like him (*ahem*) clearly don't impose enough parental discipline on this guy. This now makes twice he's interfered with the same Federation starship, chastised and had to be called back inside by his family.

Spock doesn’t remember him in the classic series but I still think the original timeline has been thoroughly tampered with. Yes, this is Trelane, probably trying to do something he thinks is nice for Spock and failing. It’s a twisted apology of sorts.

 

[bookworm8571]

Exactly. I think that the implication here is that Q we saw on Voyager is Trelane. From the perspective of the Q, we would have seen his birth and his first appearance on Voyager, then jump to The Squire of Gothos because both parents are still involved, then to Wedding Bell Blues because Trelane apparently already knows Spock and as noted, Q is the "responsible" parent. Finally, we have his appearance in Q2. Works for me anyway.

It works for me because they aren’t confined to linear time. The Q we see in the first episode of Star Trek:The Next Generation is quite possibly a much younger and less experienced character than the one who is seen disciplining his son 200 years earlier. He goes to whatever time he pleases.

 

[Captain Jollydark]

I think I should not have watched this directly after Hegemony II. The tone shift was too jarring and I spent most of the viewing cringe-laughing. However...
the speech Spock gave (his vows) was beautiful. The poem he quoted and how he brought it around to the key phrase "the sun, moon and stars all at once" was pure love.

A million years ago, in a cafe in Seattle, a guy recited that very poem to me over coffee and cigarettes - and can I just say, "Why, yes, I will sleep with you, sir."

 

[cooleddie74]

Not gonna lie, I was hoping Pike would quote some of Jonathan Archer's Charter Speech from 2161.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Not gonna lie, I was hoping Pike would quote some of Jonathan Archer's Charter Speech from 2161.

What have the gazelles ever done to you?!

 

[cooleddie74]

Don't make me break out the water polo ball.