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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x01 - "Hegemony, Part II"

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Did you ever think the Enterprise was going to be destroyed when watching TOS/TNG?
Yes, when watching the original run of Best of Both Worlds.


This isn't even getting into the consideration that Starfleet vessels should be much, much more automated. Honestly, the computer should do most of the flying, under normal circumstances.
They do, that's what Evasive Patterns and Attack Patterns are.
 
As for the Gorn warping thing, I was also completely confused. I thought it was a sort of relay system that transports Gorn ships from between those two stars back to their homeworld? If so, I really don't understand whether that's a natural phenomenon, or why they put it between two binary stars, or what purpose it served, other than "we need a place where Gorn can surprise the Enterprise, and Enterprise can't call for help, but we don't want to use a nebula again"
Yeah what was the deal with these binary stars? It seems to me the Gorn ship entered a portal(?) or warped away to parts unknown, but then Una's talking about holograms and the Gorn homeworld? Was the homeworld in-between the binary stars?
 
Yeah what was the deal with these binary stars? It seems to me the Gorn ship entered a portal(?) or warped away to parts unknown, but then Una's talking about holograms and the Gorn homeworld? Was the homeworld in-between the binary stars?
The Gorn planet is in between the two stars. According to the technobabble at least, the gravity of the two stars bend light in a way that hide the planet.
 
Can you cite the episodes and dialogue that state this? Not that I'm doubting you but I'm wondering if micro-analyzing the lines themselves might provide some kind of explanation or wiggle room.
O'Brien figures out how to beam on to his old ship that his ex-captain is on. The one that was blowing up Cardassian ships.
 
I'm going with a 7. It was a balls out actions episode, lots of really good effects and the cast was excellent. Still bothered by how much this "new Gorn" is ripped straight from the Alien franchise. Using other Trek's unoriginality is not a deflector for SNW. It's still lazy. The hibernation aspect was good, though.

Somehow Scotty will grow confidence and his taste for alcohol at the same time. And yeah, still like Doohan better, but the new guy is second best, above Pegg.

Ortegas' disfigurement was pretty quickly brushed off with an barely heard "we'll take care of this when we get back to the ship." She's the freaking pilot, this should have been a major traumatic moment. And fine, I get they can heal her, but after this episode we get the time jump and all is well. Wasted opportunity and a pointless moment of horror. Especially since the implication was that they were being absorbed or digested. This part actually bothered me because the moment I saw her hand, my mind went to the implications of such an injury to the character. Womp womp.

They portray her as practically on her last breath with blood seeping into the console, a classic "last words" exit line and then... "she'll be okay."

I can't wait for the explanation of how Chapel goes from this brilliant medical professional to a nurse who hands McCoy instruments and isn't an actual doctor. She probably has a cousin Christine who will take her place when this one dies in the series finale. :rommie:

For everyone who says "they can't make more episodes because these are so expensive" - the whole time I was watching this thinking "this is entertaining but when did Star Trek become a huge effects, action extravaganza?" I'm not invested in the spinning, weaving, eye popping visuals and breakneck pace. Maybe if they spent less time making a 48ish minute blockbuster film, they'd have a few more bucks to make longer seasons and let this series breathe - and more time to go into those moments they set up, like Ortegas' missing fingers.

But then again, they'd probably just make more episodes like the next one... which....naaah.

It was fine.
 
I was under the impression that her hand was half digested, and it looked like M'Benga used a regenerator to partially restore her hand, but didn't have time to finish.

Honestly, I am getting tired of Spock's emotions. Yes, he's half human, but he spent his TOS life trying to be Vulcan and hiding his emotions. When do we get Vulcan Spock? And there's too much attention on the Spock and Chapel relationship. But maybe this diatribe should be in the Wedding Bell Blues thread...
We get Vulcan Spock in TOS.

SNW shows Spock embracing his human side more, and his experiences doing that ultimately let him to become the Spock we see in TOS

I think Ethan Peck is doing a marvelous job with his interpretation and portrayal of the character; and for me he's done the best job with it after Leonard Nimoy.

Zachary Quinto's portrayal is a distant third.
 
Is the Stupid Blood, sorry, Super Blood, a Prime Universe thing?
It is both. I'm Prime Khan had something about him that refused to die.

We get Vulcan Spock in TOS.

SNW shows Spock embracing his human side more, and his experiences doing that ultimately let him to become the Spock we see in TOS

I think Ethan Peck is doing a marvelous job with his interpretation and portrayal of the character; and for me he's done the best job with it after Leonard Nimoy.

Zachary Quinto's portrayal is a distant third.
Nimoy is top tier.

Quinto and Peck are operating in a second tier. Both do well.
 
I saw this two days ago but the only thing that's fully stuck in my memory from it is La'an charging up the rifle to shoot the special Boss Gorn in the head at point blank range. I was laughing for like ten minutes. Normally I'd hate that kind of thing but something about the way it was directed and edited made it hilarious rather than disturbing.

The interior of the Gorn ship was so weird, like a cross between a Nautiloid from Forgotten Realms and the Collector ship from the end of Mass Effect 2. As good a location for a big gunfight as anywhere else, I suppose.
 
Ortegas' disfigurement was pretty quickly brushed off with an barely heard "we'll take care of this when we get back to the ship." She's the freaking pilot, this should have been a major traumatic moment. And fine, I get they can heal her, but after this episode we get the time jump and all is well. Wasted opportunity and a pointless moment of horror. Especially since the implication was that they were being absorbed or digested. This part actually bothered me because the moment I saw her hand, my mind went to the implications of such an injury to the character. Womp womp.

They portray her as practically on her last breath with blood seeping into the console, a classic "last words" exit line and then... "she'll be okay."...
I guess you missed the scene where Ortegas looks into her reflection in a window of the Enterprise, sees a Gorn behind her in the reflection, and freaks out and takes a short time to re-compose herself.

Her pyschological trauma from the injury and how it will affect her character going is just beginning I would say.
 
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I can't wait for the explanation of how Chapel goes from this brilliant medical professional to a nurse who hands McCoy instruments and isn't an actual doctor.

The explanation would be that she is a nurse, and has been the beginning of SNW.

Any nurse, regards of how skilled a medical professional she is (and SNW has done a better job showing her skills than TOS did) is always going to the assistant to a experienced physician/surgeon, particularly during surgical procedures.
 
7/10

Great visuals and scoring. Decent finish to part 1 but somewhat "unrealistic" that our Enterprise crew are the only ones that woke up on the Gorn ship semi-digested and mounted an escape with presumably thousands of Gorn on board that ship. Poor Erica. Gross Gorn ship by the way. Gorn have apparently gone to the Stormtrooper shooting academy.

The Enterprise plot was ok. A fair amount of technobabble in regards to the Batel infestation. Ilirian blood is the new Borg nanoprobe savior? Scotty and Pelia were good together. Somewhat of a contrivance that everything came out hunky dory in the end I guess based on the stakes presented. Not that I want nuBSG level character misery. :lol:
 
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