Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x01 - "Hegemony, Part II"

[Yistaan]

General reminder that the galactic perimeter can be reached by vertical travel instead of horizontal.

And around the spiral arms, the galaxy is only about 1,000 light years thick. So reaching the galactic perimeter wouldn't even be the equivalent of traveling from one end of the Federation to the other.

It was a band shown in Trek, not an entire flat spherical covering

 

[Noname Given]

I want to point out here that it took them less then an hour to go from the Demarcation Line border to the radiation zone.

So that map is obviously nowhere near accurate.

No. They're just back to the TOS Warp Scale - where a Federation Starship can cross 990.7 light years in a bit under 48 hours (See TOS S3 That Which Survives.)

 

[Fateor]

It was a band shown in Trek, not an entire flat spherical covering

That it was shown as a band should tell you all you need to know about the accuracy of that particular visual.

Because at the scale we're talking about it would have appeared as a wall stretching across the entire screen.

 

[Yistaan]

That it was shown as a band should tell you all you need to know about the accuracy of that particular visual.

Because at the scale we're talking about it would have appeared as a wall stretching across the entire screen.

good point

 

[Nerys Myk]

I want to point out here that it took them less then an hour to go from the Demarcation Line border to the radiation zone.

So that map is obviously nowhere near accurate.

So what? Speed of plot.

 

[Fateor]

So what? Speed of plot.

You understand that's pretty much you saying that the writers or directors of this episode are incompetent?

 

[Pauln6]

You understand that's pretty much you saying that the writers or directors of this episode are incompetent?

I loved that they put in the effort to verify the speeds and distances in TMP.

 

[Turtletrekker]

You understand that's pretty much you saying that the writers or directors of this episode are incompetent?

If that's the case, then that has to go all of the way back to the very start of TOS.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You understand that's pretty much you saying that the writers or directors of this episode are incompetent?

Nah, not even close.

 

[Fateor]

If that's the case, then that has to go all of the way back to the very start of TOS.

Okay?

Nah, not even close.

Wrong.

"Speed of Plot" is a phrase used to highlight a specific type of blatant plot hole where the way events are laid out they logically shouldn't have been able to occur.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Okay?



Wrong.

"Speed of Plot" is a phrase used to highlight a specific type of blatant plot hole where the way events are laid out they logically shouldn't have been able to occur.

Nah. I know what I wrote and what I meant by it.

 

[Fateor]

Nah. I know what I wrote and what I meant by it.

You apparently don't, because you used a phrase that has a very specific meaning and are now trying to argue that they mean something else.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You apparently don't, because you used a phrase that has a very specific meaning and are now trying to argue that they mean something else.

I know exactly what it means. I’ve been using it for years. Hell, I might have invented it.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

"Speed of Plot" is a phrase used to highlight a specific type of blatant plot hole where the way events are laid out they logically shouldn't have been able to occur.

That's not what speed of plot means, especially in the context of the reality that no spacecraft can go faster than the speed of light at all.

Everything about warp drive has always been "speed of plot," in order to make it feasible to tell stories in which the characters are able to move from star to star in their own lifetimes.

Logically, such events should not be able to occur, period. But the audience likes it when they do.

MIC DROP.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Time, distance and speed are only relevant when they can add drama and tension to the plot.

 

[Fateor]

I know exactly what it means. I’ve been using it for years. Hell, I might have invented it.

No, you didn't. It was J. Michael Straczynski.

That's not what speed of plot means, especially in the context of the reality that no spacecraft can go faster than the speed of light at all.

Everything about warp drive has always been "speed of plot," in order to make it feasible to tell stories in which the characters are able to move from star to star in their own lifetimes.

Logically, such events should not be able to occur, period. But the audience likes it when they do.

MIC DROP.

You're confusing "speed of plot" with "in universe logic".

Also, that's some bad physics, it's not that no spacecraft can go faster then light, it's that no spacecraft can accelerate faster then light within normal spacetime.

 

[Nerys Myk]

No, you didn't. It was J. Michael Straczynski.

He got it from me.

 

[Tuskin38]

You're confusing "speed of plot" with "in universe logic".

No, you're misunderstanding what they're talking about.

 

[MarcKle1964]

That's not what speed of plot means, especially in the context of the reality that no spacecraft can go faster than the speed of light at all.

Everything about warp drive has always been "speed of plot," in order to make it feasible to tell stories in which the characters are able to move from star to star in their own lifetimes.

Logically, such events should not be able to occur, period. But the audience likes it when they do.

MIC DROP.

Meanwhile, the real Yoyager launched in 1977 has almost travelled a light day and will reach that point next year. Lifetimes, indeed.