I liked Hemmer. His death made me like him even more. 
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x01 - "Hegemony, Part II"
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I’ve grown to hate canon with a passion.
I thought it was a dramatic death in a drama program. Seemed fitting.I liked Hemmer. His death made me like him even more.
They make a good camera.
Whether I grieved over Hemmer’s death or didn’t give a shit (like I doubt I’d give a shit if Ortegas died), still isn’t the point. And if my point hasn’t been made with you about this by now, it never will.
Just like Andoria
Scotty's age and rank for this time period is consistent with Vulcan's Glory, a TOS novel set during the Pike era from the 80s written by DC Fontana.
What's the canon connection? Hemmer could have remained CEO up to the point Scotty took the job. No "canon" reason he couldn't .
He was killed off because that was the plot. Of course he could still be alive and Gorn free on "Not-Hoth" for plot reasons too.
The character had to have an artificial plot-driven exit to make way for Scotty. Just like Pelia will have to do, but I don’t give a shit about her character. And your fav Ortegas will have to exit to make way for Sulu. Of course, what you personally think of that is your own opinion. But for me, it was annoying that they felt they needed to kill Hemmer off. I didn’t think it was at all necessary, even to the plot.
That's interesting, although it may be that year was fudged in editing. I recall the First Adventure novel listing Rand's age as 16 when it was blatant from Charlie X that she was way older. The Lights of Zetar also made it clear that Scotty was way older than Romaine.
What source led to the ages of the main characters being canonised on Memory Alpha?
Eh, Scotty doesn't have to show up for years, so I doubt It was for that reason. I expect all the nonTOS characters will make an exit between now and the end of season five. I'm not particularly bother by the notion. I can only hope that their exits are well handled.
Hemmers's death was pretty standard stuff, kill a character to show the enemy is "serious". Hemmer got the short straw. Perhaps if they knew how popular Hemmer would be they might have changed their minds.
They tend to go with the ages of the actors unless something concrete is mentioned in an episode.
Sometimes a death is just a death.
It's a dramatic storytelling trope that Trek has used a lot.
You are absolutely welcome to your opinion. I stand by mine that I find it annoying that creative choices are dictated by a 50 year old show.
I see no evidence to support that in Hemmer's case. If one of the show runners said that was the reason then fine, but it seems like you're picking something to be mad about because you want to be mad.
When they killed off Airiam on Discovery, everybody was like, "why should I care, It's a character that they didn't develop and I know nothing about?"
So they give everybody exactly what they were asking for, and they still bitch and find reasons to be mad. It just goes to show that you can never please anybody and you should never cater to people who can't be pleased. It's an exercise of utility
So they give everybody exactly what they were asking for, and they still bitch and find reasons to be mad. It just goes to show that you can never please anybody and you should never cater to people who can't be pleased. It's an exercise of utility
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Perhaps the actor didn't want to keep wearing the makeup longer term? I just thought it was a decision to help develop Uhura's journey towards self-belief.
Utilities need exercise?
There's nothing in TOS that says that Hemmer had to die, or that Pelia has to die. Plus they chose to kill him off in season 1, years before TOS, and replace him with another chief engineer who isn't Scotty, so it doesn't seem like continuity had any influence on his fate.
The character was created to be “done in one” and the actor contracted for the single season. The actor was well liked and brought back in season 2 in other roles.
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